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Have to disagree... I can not trust people that are willing not to have principles in order to be more competitive. Any next principle they might choose to sacrifice could hurt my expectations and my ability to collaborate very badly... so I might choose not to put in common tools and abilities that might later on be used to attain competitive goals I can not agree with.<br><br>This is not about free - non-free software, it is about being trustworthy to your kin, and a respectable pirate, OR NOT.<br><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: rok.andree@piratskastranka.net<br>Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 22:31:40 +0200<br>To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Pirate Party of Germany chooses proprietary software<br><br>Gonna have to agree with Boris and Andrew.<br><br>Beeing opensource/free(as in freedome) gives software extra points but it does not disqualify nonfree software.<div><br clear="all">Lp<br>Rok Andrée<br>Blagajnik -<font size="1"> </font>Treasurer<br>
<div>Piratska stranka Slovenije - Slovenian Pirate Party</div><br>
<br><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On 30 July 2011 22:26, Andrew Norton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ktetch@gmail.com">ktetch@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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On 7/30/2011 4:01 PM, Boris Turovskiy wrote:<br>
> */this is a trolling post/*<br>
> Ahoi,<br>
><br>
> The Pirate Party of Germany has decided to use a proprietary, commercial<br>
> software tool for accounting and member management. After a review of<br>
> all possibilities that software was the only one which conformed to all<br>
> requirements.<br>
> As you can surmise I'm fully supportive of the German Pirate Party<br>
> Board's approach, as I consider a software to be a tool which has to be<br>
> chosen based on its suitability.<br>
<br>
</div>I'm with you, Boris. Choosing tools based on ideology, rather than<br>
suitability is like fighting sweatshops by never wearing shoes. It makes<br>
little difference overall, and hurts your ability to perform optimally.<br>
<br>
Pirate Parties are *NOT* FOSS-cheerleading orgs, they're freedom, and<br>
progress orgs. That might mean promoting FOSS alternatives at times<br>
(particularly if they're the better option), but when there isn't one,<br>
but there is a non-FOSS method that works perfectly, then use the non-FOSS.<br>
<br>
Personally, if non-FOSS is a fair way ahead of the FOSS equivalent, I'm<br>
not going to cripple my ability to do things on ideological grounds.<br>
That's just stupid. Just like the politicians here in the US right now.<br>
<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
<div class="ecxim"><br>
> However, I know that there are some people in the international Pirate<br>
> movement who see software as a principal issue (invoking terms like<br>
> "freedom" and other utter bullshit), for whom I wish to create this<br>
> thread. They can safely troll here in the knowledge that no0 one takes<br>
> them seriously.<br>
><br>
> Best regards,<br>
> Boris<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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