I agree and have been point this out the usability of the software is the most important consideration.<div><br></div><div>But needing windows is a big hit for usability as most delegates will have a hard time gaining access to a legal windows system. It's also bad PR (most people have no idea what all this free buissnes is but understand the difference between windows and linux). But it's not a deail breaker if the software is otherwise substantualy better or even the only solution.<br clear="all">
Lp<br>Rok Andrée<br><div>Piratska stranka Slovenije - Slovenian Pirate Party</div><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 December 2011 17:13, Giulio Prisco <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:giulio@gmail.com">giulio@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Then we are back to square one: "There is NO completely free (in the<br>
FSF sense) AND USABLE software solution."<br>
<br>
I capitalized AND USABLE because it is the most important practical<br>
consideration, and this is a practical case: you need to see, hear and<br>
text other participants, without needing a week to set the system up,<br>
and without having to reboot every five minutes.<br>
<br>
By the way, there is a version of the OpenQwaq client that runs on<br>
Linux, but it is still very much work in progress. I hope there will<br>
be a stable Linux client by the end of 2012.<br>
<br>
2011/12/29 Rok Andrée <<a href="mailto:rok.andree@piratskastranka.net">rok.andree@piratskastranka.net</a>>:<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> Great offer but you need a linux client as most delegates are runing<br>
> gnu/linux.<br>
><br>
> That's not because we are software zelots but because we use gnu/linux and<br>
> installing flash is one thing, buying windows and reinstalling a whole<br>
> computer... is a bit much. (most dont use gnu/linux "just cuz it's free" ..<br>
> actually ubuntu (and mint as well i belive) is not even free in the RMS<br>
> sense [rms does not aprove of Ubuntu]).<br>
><br>
><br>
> Lp<br>
> Rok Andrée<br>
> Piratska stranka Slovenije - Slovenian Pirate Party<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 29 December 2011 16:41, Giulio Prisco <<a href="mailto:giulio@gmail.com">giulio@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I also wish to thank Wolfgang for his hard work and constructive<br>
>> effort. Of course, criticizing the work of other is much easier than<br>
>> offering a solution.<br>
>><br>
>> Listen, I have done this for a living for many years, and I know these<br>
>> things fairly well. There is NO completely free (in the FSF sense) AND<br>
>> USABLE software solution to permit remote access to a conference to<br>
>> many participants from different locations, with streaming video,<br>
>> audio and text messaging.<br>
>><br>
>> I could offer a solution based on OpenQwaq<br>
>> <a href="http://telexlr8networks.wordpress.com/openqwaq/" target="_blank">http://telexlr8networks.wordpress.com/openqwaq/</a>, which in my opinion<br>
>> is by far the best technology for this and is open source (GNU GPL<br>
>> v2), but the client does not run on Linux yet, so it would not satisfy<br>
>> free software zealots, and I prefer saving my time and yours.<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Gregory Engels<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:Gregory.Engels@piratenpartei-hessen.de">Gregory.Engels@piratenpartei-hessen.de</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On 29.12.2011, at 09:00, Wolfgang Preiss wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> My goal was to present a solution to the organisation team/PPI Board,<br>
>> >> which could be used. However it does not make sense to provide a solution<br>
>> >> which is already rejected by the potential users in the first place.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Wolfgang, I also would like to take the opportunity to thank you<br>
>> > wholeheartedly for the great service to the pirate community that you are<br>
>> > doing!<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Gregory Engels<br>
>> > International Coordinator<br>
>> > Pirate Party of Germany<br>
>> ><br>
>> > mobile: <a href="tel:%2B49%20172%20853%2044%2091" value="+491728534491">+49 172 853 44 91</a><br>
>> > skype:gregory.engels<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:jabber%3Adichter@jabber.piratenpartei.de">jabber:dichter@jabber.piratenpartei.de</a><br>
>> > my free time: <a href="https://tungle.me/dichter" target="_blank">https://tungle.me/dichter</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
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