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    Additionally, Germany recent legislation, introducing the new
    plastic ID cards with biometric data and optional (online)
    authentication function, and implemented several steps to harmonize
    with European law. Therefore German citizens not living in Germany
    are now able to get a Passport as well as an ID card from any
    issuing authority in Germany (in general the embassy of the citizens
    residential country issued Passports, and only these) and since 2012
    German embassies can also issue ID cards.<br>
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    Cheers,<br>
    Georg<br>
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    Am 09.01.2012 19:48, schrieb Jerry Weyer:
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cite="mid:CAAWSypPeNT9G1zxp9RekAX2Pq-0w1niJqWf5roodL_F5eJ6JVA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Hi Justus,
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      <div>As an expat, if you don't have an ID (and it is necessary to
        provide an ID number to sign a petition) you can still sign the
        one in your home country. There is a possibility to sign online
        so that should work easily!</div>
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      <div>Only thing is, as always with the "fortress" EU: it's limited
        to EU citizens.</div>
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      </div>
      <div>Kind regards,</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Jerry<br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Justus
          Römeth <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:squig@dfpx.de">squig@dfpx.de</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If you are
            a German citizen living in another country you simply don't
            get an ID, just a passport (of course for students abroad
            this is a small issue as they can just keep being registered
            at their parents', but one of my friends family moved to
            Switzerland when she was young, she never owned an ID card
            (neither in CH nor later in F and NL). So that would
            certainly be a problem, or are expats now lesser citizens
            all of a sudden?<br>
            <br>
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                <div class="h5">On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Jerry
                  Weyer <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:weyerjerry@gmail.com" target="_blank">weyerjerry@gmail.com</a>></span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                    Hi Andrew,<br>
                    <br>
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                      <div>On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Andrew Norton
                        <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:ktetch@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">ktetch@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          UK has the electoral role. It's updated
                          annually, but also includes<br>
                          dates of birth (for those that turn 18 within
                          a year of it being<br>
                          published), and it's available, unedited, for
                          supervised viewing by<br>
                          ANYONE. Or you can buy a copy which doesn't
                          include people that have<br>
                          'opted out'. It's this version that <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://192.com"
                            target="_blank">192.com</a> searches, for
                          instance.<br>
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                      <div>We have a similar thing.</div>
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                          Other than that, as a brit, I don't really
                          have any ID numbers. I've got<br>
                          my driving license (which is the old green EU
                          paper one, not a<br>
                          photocard) and a NI card (somewhere) and of
                          course my passport, but of<br>
                          these 3 official uk documents, only one is
                          given to all citizens (NI)<br>
                          and then only the UK ones. An EU citizen in
                          the UK wouldn't have them.<br>
                          (but they'd have their own id stuff, I guess)<br>
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                      <div>So that's the reason why the UK is one of the
                        countries not having an ID number requirement
                        :) Thanks or the info! So if the UK can check
                        without ID I guess other countries can too. </div>
                      <div><br>
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                      <div>Kind regards,</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Jerry</div>
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