Pirata Spain, after some difficulties(we are reconfiguring our web) just released this<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.partidopirata.es/index2.html">http://www.partidopirata.es/index2.html</a> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
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1. Re: MegaUpload raided, shut down on request of US authorities<br>
(Amelia Andersdotter)<br>
2. Re: MegaUpload raided, shut down on request of US authorities<br>
(Justus R?meth)<br>
3. Re: MegaUpload raided, shut down on request of US authorities<br>
(David Arcos)<br>
4. Re: MegaUpload raided, shut down on request of US authorities<br>
(Giulio Prisco)<br>
5. Re: MegaUpload raided, shut down on request of US authorities<br>
(Pirat@LennStar.de)<br>
6. Re: MegaUpload raided, shut down on request of US authorities<br>
(David Arcos)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:35:14 +0200<br>
From: Amelia Andersdotter <<a href="mailto:teirdes@gmail.com">teirdes@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] MegaUpload raided, shut down on request<br>
of US authorities<br>
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Pe 20.01.2012 00:00, Andrew Norton a scris:<br>
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> On 1/19/2012 4:45 PM, Rick Falkvinge (Piratpartiet) wrote:<br>
>> MegaUpload has been raided in New Zealand and shut down at the request<br>
>> of US authorities.<br>
>><br>
>> This has a lot in common with the raid on The Pirate Bay on May 31,<br>
>> 2006. If the affected Pirate Parties act quickly on this, it has the<br>
>> potential for a media breakthrough moment. Those are rare and need to be<br>
>> positively jumped on when happening.<br>
> Alas, USPP is still in the process of reorganising our structure, but<br>
> I'm working on something.<br>
><br>
>> After all, MegaUpload didn't just have 150 million users. They also had<br>
>> 150 million voters.<br>
>><br>
> This is true.<br>
Only if you believe that the internet is populated by responsible, legal<br>
adults.<br>
<br>
/a<br>
<br>
> - --<br>
> Andrew Norton<br>
> <a href="http://ktetch.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://ktetch.blogspot.com</a><br>
> Tel: +1(352)6-KTETCH <a href="tel:%5B%2B1-352-658-3824" value="+13526583824">[+1-352-658-3824</a>]<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:06:58 +0100<br>
From: Justus R?meth <<a href="mailto:squig@dfpx.de">squig@dfpx.de</a>><br>
To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<br>
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Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] MegaUpload raided, shut down on request<br>
of US authorities<br>
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I think we have to keep in mind that it is well possible that megaupload,<br>
as opposed to Piratebay for example, was making a lot of money off<br>
infringing copyright, which at least for PPDE would mean that we are not<br>
against pursuing them legally.<br>
<br>
What I think is more questionable here is whether all those people, all of<br>
whom clearly didn't break any law while having been in the US, are gonna be<br>
tried in the countries they were arrested, or gonna be extradited to the US<br>
(like that poor British boy). Or did NZ join the US and nobody cared to<br>
tell me? This expansion of US law to be applicable to everybody who uses<br>
the internet is worrysome.<br>
<br>
-J<br>
<br>
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Amelia Andersdotter <<a href="mailto:teirdes@gmail.com">teirdes@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
<br>
> Pe 20.01.2012 00:00, Andrew Norton a scris:<br>
><br>
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>> On 1/19/2012 4:45 PM, Rick Falkvinge (Piratpartiet) wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> MegaUpload has been raided in New Zealand and shut down at the request<br>
>>> of US authorities.<br>
>>><br>
>>> This has a lot in common with the raid on The Pirate Bay on May 31,<br>
>>> 2006. If the affected Pirate Parties act quickly on this, it has the<br>
>>> potential for a media breakthrough moment. Those are rare and need to be<br>
>>> positively jumped on when happening.<br>
>>><br>
>> Alas, USPP is still in the process of reorganising our structure, but<br>
>> I'm working on something.<br>
>><br>
>> After all, MegaUpload didn't just have 150 million users. They also had<br>
>>> 150 million voters.<br>
>>><br>
>>> This is true.<br>
>><br>
> Only if you believe that the internet is populated by responsible, legal<br>
> adults.<br>
><br>
> /a<br>
><br>
><br>
> - -- Andrew Norton<br>
>> <a href="http://ktetch.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://ktetch.blogspot.com</a><br>
>> Tel: +1(352)6-KTETCH <a href="tel:%5B%2B1-352-658-3824" value="+13526583824">[+1-352-658-3824</a>]<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:11:13 +0100<br>
From: David Arcos <<a href="mailto:david.arcos@gmail.com">david.arcos@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
Pirates de Catalunya sent a press release, and published this:<br>
<a href="http://pirata.cat/bloc/?p=2797" target="_blank">http://pirata.cat/bloc/?p=2797</a><br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:16:10 +0100<br>
From: Giulio Prisco <<a href="mailto:giulio@gmail.com">giulio@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<br>
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of US authorities<br>
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It seems that Megaupload was making (a lot of) money indeed. But as<br>
Rick says, this has the potential for a media breakthrough moment, so<br>
I think we should find a defendable angle. The press release just sent<br>
by Pirates de Catalunya seems to have good and strong arguments.<br>
<br>
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Justus R?meth <<a href="mailto:squig@dfpx.de">squig@dfpx.de</a>> wrote:<br>
> I think we have to keep in mind that it is well possible that megaupload, as<br>
> opposed to Piratebay for example, was making a lot of money off infringing<br>
> copyright, which at least for PPDE would mean that we are not against<br>
> pursuing them legally.<br>
><br>
> What I think is more questionable here is whether all those people, all of<br>
> whom clearly didn't break any law while having been in the US, are gonna be<br>
> tried in the countries they were arrested, or gonna be?extradited?to the US<br>
> (like that poor British boy). Or did NZ join the US and nobody cared to tell<br>
> me? This expansion of US law to be applicable to everybody who uses the<br>
> internet is worrysome.<br>
><br>
> -J<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Amelia Andersdotter <<a href="mailto:teirdes@gmail.com">teirdes@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Pe 20.01.2012 00:00, Andrew Norton a scris:<br>
>><br>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
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>>><br>
>>> On 1/19/2012 4:45 PM, Rick Falkvinge (Piratpartiet) wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> MegaUpload has been raided in New Zealand and shut down at the request<br>
>>>> of US authorities.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> This has a lot in common with the raid on The Pirate Bay on May 31,<br>
>>>> 2006. If the affected Pirate Parties act quickly on this, it has the<br>
>>>> potential for a media breakthrough moment. Those are rare and need to be<br>
>>>> positively jumped on when happening.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Alas, USPP is still in the process of reorganising our structure, but<br>
>>> I'm working on something.<br>
>>><br>
>>>> After all, MegaUpload didn't just have 150 million users. They also had<br>
>>>> 150 million voters.<br>
>>>><br>
>>> This is true.<br>
>><br>
>> Only if you believe that the internet is populated by responsible, legal<br>
>> adults.<br>
>><br>
>> /a<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> - -- Andrew Norton<br>
>>> <a href="http://ktetch.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://ktetch.blogspot.com</a><br>
>>> Tel: +1(352)6-KTETCH <a href="tel:%5B%2B1-352-658-3824" value="+13526583824">[+1-352-658-3824</a>]<br>
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>><br>
>> ____________________________________________________<br>
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>><br>
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> ____________________________________________________<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:32:40 +0100<br>
From: "Pirat@LennStar.de" <<a href="mailto:pirat@lennstar.de">pirat@lennstar.de</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] MegaUpload raided, shut down on request<br>
of US authorities<br>
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Can we get a translation into english?<br>
Need not to be an "official" one, just a bit better than google<br>
translate would give us ;)<br>
<br>
LennStar<br>
<br>
Am 20.01.2012 10:11, schrieb David Arcos:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> Pirates de Catalunya sent a press release, and published this:<br>
> <a href="http://pirata.cat/bloc/?p=2797" target="_blank">http://pirata.cat/bloc/?p=2797</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> ____________________________________________________<br>
> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>
> <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general" target="_blank">http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general</a><br>
<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:23 +0100<br>
From: David Arcos <<a href="mailto:david.arcos@gmail.com">david.arcos@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<br>
<<a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] MegaUpload raided, shut down on request<br>
of US authorities<br>
Message-ID:<br>
<CAFB-oW3s+Z3Xr5JsWpzu5kAA5YLUOxs9FVBF1pYuf_=<a href="mailto:X2q-B3Q@mail.gmail.com">X2q-B3Q@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
sorry but we're very busy at the moment. We're getting interviews from the<br>
main TV channel (TV3), and other minor ones. Even journalists from Russia!<br>
<br>
I recommend that you google-translate from the Spanish version (at fottom),<br>
should be easier for Google.<br>
<br>
Should you have a problem with a specific sentence, just tell me!<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Pirat@LennStar.de <<a href="mailto:pirat@lennstar.de">pirat@lennstar.de</a>>wrote:<br>
<br>
> Can we get a translation into english?<br>
> Need not to be an "official" one, just a bit better than google<br>
> translate would give us ;)<br>
><br>
> LennStar<br>
><br>
> Am 20.01.2012 10:11, schrieb David Arcos:<br>
> > Hi,<br>
> ><br>
> > Pirates de Catalunya sent a press release, and published this:<br>
> > <a href="http://pirata.cat/bloc/?p=2797" target="_blank">http://pirata.cat/bloc/?p=2797</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > ____________________________________________________<br>
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>
> > <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>
> > <a href="http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general" target="_blank">http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general</a><br>
><br>
> ____________________________________________________<br>
> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>
> <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general" target="_blank">http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general</a><br>
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