<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Megaupload has divided the Pirate Movement because not everyone agrees:</div><div><br></div><div>a) With what Dotcom was doing;</div><div>b) Whether they should get involved; and</div><div>c) Whether it's better to focus on ACTA at the moment.</div><div><br></div><div>We are only divided by opinion on those matters. Each Party must respect the opinions and decisions of other Pirate Parties. This does not mean we are divided in overall goal, or that any camaraderie is lost. It just means we don't always agree on everything.</div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>--</div><div>Mozart Palmer</div><div>Head of Media Relations</div><div>Pirate Party Australia</div><div>P: 0415 152 765</div><div>E: <a href="mailto:mozart.palmer@pirateparty.org.au">mozart.palmer@pirateparty.org.au</a></div><div>T: @OlbrychtPalmer</div></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span> </div><br><div><div>On 28/01/2012, at 7:12 PM, <a href="mailto:Pirat@LennStar.de">Pirat@LennStar.de</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Words like pirate?<br><br>Isn't this<br>a) discrimination of religion (flying spaghetti monster) and<br>b) of a political party?<br><br><br>----<br><br>why 3)?<br><br>LennStar<br><br>Am 28.01.2012 02:32, schrieb Stephane Bakhos:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Well, that's the natural reaction if you defend a company like<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">MegaUpload. You can close your eyes as hard as you want, their business<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">modell is based upon earning money by selling other people's work<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">without permission.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">When thing that you seem to have missed is the MP3tunes verdict from<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">about 5 months ago<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/08/record-labels-get-hollow-victory-in-mp3tunes-infringement-case.ars">http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/08/record-labels-get-hollow-victory-in-mp3tunes-infringement-case.ars</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">And the denian of the appeal about 2 weeks ago<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://onthecoversongs.blogspot.com/2012/01/labels-denied-interlocutory-appeal-in.html">http://onthecoversongs.blogspot.com/2012/01/labels-denied-interlocutory-appeal-in.html</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The few juicy bits:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The labels argued that MP3tunes was disqualified because it should have<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">known that many of the songs users sideloaded from websites such as<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">rapidshare were infringing. But Judge William Pauley disagreed, arguing<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">that the DMCA imposes no obligation to investigate potentially<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">infringing activity absent a specific complaint from copyright holders.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The only exception is links to sites with URLs containing "red flag"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">words like "pirate" or "bootleg."<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">EMI also argued that MP3tunes couldn't claim the DMCA safe harbor<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">because it benefitted from its users' infringement and had the ability<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to control that infringement. But Judge Pauley disagreed. He held that<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">there was no evidence MP3tunes directly profited from users' infringing<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">sideloads. And he held that users, not MP3tunes, controlled which files<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">users placed in their lockers.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"Judge Pauley soundly rejected that line of reasoning, writing that<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"MP3tunes does not use a 'master copy' to store or play back songs<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">stored in its lockers. Instead, MP3tunes uses a standard data<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">compression algorithm that eliminates redundant digital data."<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">This is probably going to be jurisprudence in favour of MU, and most of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the cyberlockers out there.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">At the end of the day, the FBI raid did achieve a few things in favour<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of the *AA:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">1. Give them a picture of the foreign rich guy they were talking about<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">when pushing SOPA/PIPA<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">2. Excerted tremendous pressure on the cyberlocker system, with many<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">deciding to close down (filesonic, fileserve, etc)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">3. 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