<div>100% agreed, data seize was UNJUSTIFIED and UNNECESSARY, and a violation of customer rights...<br></div><div><br></div><div>And you guise seems you had forget the meaning of "SEIZE"... FBI didn't DELETED the files, they SEIZED it, what means all data is under THEIR control. They are condemning MU directives of distributing copyrighted files, but FBI themselves kidnapped all user data and they even didn't say anything about using that data... That is what I call Industrial Espionage.</div>
<div><br></div><div>You are missing the north... really, I think you are defending/condemning wrong people</div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/1/29 Kenneth Peiruza <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kenneth@pirata.cat">kenneth@pirata.cat</a>></span><br>
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PP-DE is acting SHAMEFULLY in this case.<br>
<br>
What about the personal data of people using MU? didn't you had a
principle about defending privacy?<br>
<br>
Shame.<br>
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Al 29/01/12 15:37, En/na Choms ha escrit:
<div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite">Presumption of innocence? Oh, wait, that doesn't
exists on the US... if so, imho, you have to wait for a trial
before condemn someone... but who cares about justice? :)<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2012/1/29 Christian Hufgard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pp@christian-hufgard.de" target="_blank">pp@christian-hufgard.de</a>></span><br>
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<div>On 29.01.2012 11:29, Josep Sānchez wrote:<br>
>> You are also allowed to lose your money by
investing in criminal<br>
>> stock companies.<br>
><br>
> That's not the actual situation. In my country when
anybody does any<br>
> action it is responsible for the collateral damages it
might cause, and<br>
> it's even more serious if they could have avoided or
previewed them and<br>
> didn't do it. It doesn't matter if its an individual, a
government<br>
> officer or a policeman.<br>
> Are laws different in your country and in the USA?<br>
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Don't know about the US, but in germany police in nearly never
made<br>
responsible for whatever they do. We had even our parties
server raided<br>
a couple of days before an election without any
consequences...<br>
<div><br>
> MU was not a "criminal company" *until* Virginia State
authorities told<br>
> the Feds to seize it.<br>
<br>
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Of course they were, otherwise the hadn't been raided. (A
judge or a<br>
jury still might decide something different)<br>
<div><br>
> People could hire their services until that moment<br>
> as they could do with any other company in the net.
Financial services,<br>
> ISP's and even US tax authorities were operating
normally with MU. Are<br>
> they also criminals?.<br>
<br>
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What for was Al Capone sent to Alcatraz? Murder or not paying
his taxes?<br>
<div><br>
<br>
>> Well, that's your point of view. I don't think the
Feds or Virginia<br>
>> State are responsible to keep MU running. And if
the court determines<br>
>> the raid was illegal, they gonna have to pay a
pretty huge amount of<br>
>> money to Kim and his fellows.<br>
><br>
> First was a matter of money, now of who has to run the
service, what<br>
> next? :)<br>
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Finally it's the matter of reason. If the law in the US does
not force<br>
the Feds to keep a service online they were told to shut down,
why<br>
should they do so?<br>
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