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PP-DE is acting SHAMEFULLY in this case.<br>
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What about the personal data of people using MU? didn't you had a
principle about defending privacy?<br>
<br>
Shame.<br>
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Al 29/01/12 15:37, En/na Choms ha escrit:
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cite="mid:CAN3V-dzR5C-EUU7qXtzkQeQ8RuET1opxj1fABx04JqB0i+5xWQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Presumption of innocence? Oh, wait, that doesn't
exists on the US... if so, imho, you have to wait for a trial
before condemn someone... but who cares about justice? :)<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2012/1/29 Christian Hufgard <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pp@christian-hufgard.de">pp@christian-hufgard.de</a>></span><br>
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<div class="im">On 29.01.2012 11:29, Josep Sànchez wrote:<br>
>> You are also allowed to lose your money by
investing in criminal<br>
>> stock companies.<br>
><br>
> That's not the actual situation. In my country when
anybody does any<br>
> action it is responsible for the collateral damages it
might cause, and<br>
> it's even more serious if they could have avoided or
previewed them and<br>
> didn't do it. It doesn't matter if its an individual, a
government<br>
> officer or a policeman.<br>
> Are laws different in your country and in the USA?<br>
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Don't know about the US, but in germany police in nearly never
made<br>
responsible for whatever they do. We had even our parties
server raided<br>
a couple of days before an election without any
consequences...<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> MU was not a "criminal company" *until* Virginia State
authorities told<br>
> the Feds to seize it.<br>
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Of course they were, otherwise the hadn't been raided. (A
judge or a<br>
jury still might decide something different)<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> People could hire their services until that moment<br>
> as they could do with any other company in the net.
Financial services,<br>
> ISP's and even US tax authorities were operating
normally with MU. Are<br>
> they also criminals?.<br>
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What for was Al Capone sent to Alcatraz? Murder or not paying
his taxes?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
>> Well, that's your point of view. I don't think the
Feds or Virginia<br>
>> State are responsible to keep MU running. And if
the court determines<br>
>> the raid was illegal, they gonna have to pay a
pretty huge amount of<br>
>> money to Kim and his fellows.<br>
><br>
> First was a matter of money, now of who has to run the
service, what<br>
> next? :)<br>
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Finally it's the matter of reason. If the law in the US does
not force<br>
the Feds to keep a service online they were told to shut down,
why<br>
should they do so?<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Christian<br>
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