I am not sure if all the local pirate parties from South-Western Germany and Northern Switzerland read here, maybe you want to try to contact them directly?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Parti Pirate Alsace <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alsace.contact@lists.partipirate.org">alsace.contact@lists.partipirate.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>Dear Amelia, dear fellow Pirates,</span><br><br><span>We are REALLY sorry about the confusion created by our last mails.</span><br>
<br><span>We had not proof-read them, and therefore created an embarassing situation for Ms Amelia Anderstotter and her team. We would like to apologize for that.</span><br>
<br><span>As you all have read, Amelia declined our invitation due to her key position in ACTA's ratification process by the European Parliament. We hope that Mr Christian Engström will join us, but nothing is decided.</span><br>
<br><span>By the way, our invitation is still going for the other Pirates. We would be very pleased to see people from other nations joining us on March 11th.</span><br><br><span>Kind regards,</span><br>
<span>Alsace section, Pirate Party of France</span> <div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/14 Justus Römeth <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:squig@dfpx.de" target="_blank">squig@dfpx.de</a>></span><br>
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<div>Moin Pirates!</div><div><br></div>At least us here in Hanover also toyed with the idea of having a central European protest, either in Brussels or Strasbourg (as opposed to a central German protest in Berlin or Fankfurt, which we think would be rather silly, but which has been proposed in Germany, too). Unfortunately I think the 12th of March is way too short-term for us, for two reasons:<div>
1) We wanted it to be big, to at least charter a bus from here. Impossible to do in that short amount of time, as there is also the protest on the 25th and we have a private life, too (you know, writing theses and that kind of stuff)</div>
<div>2) if we plan events every two weeks we run in a danger of boring the people who support us, just as happened with Occupy. We need to be in this fight for the long haul, and need to make our events not monotonous and too repeadetly. Granted a protest-trip to Strasbourg is different than a local demonstration, but still.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Also, for our next GA there are Pirates from Southern Germany trying to organize a train to the venue (which is North of Hamburg), so if we plan this European protest right, we could try to organize a train (or more) going from Eastern Europe (PL/CZ/HU/SK) through Germany and other adjacent countries towards Brussels. This of course would require a lot more time to plan than we have for any date before May, but if it worked it would be an awesome idea. There were already comments on the European dimension of this protest in at least Polish, German and a Luxembourgish newspaper, a coordinated protest in Brussels could take that to the next level.</div>
<div><br></div><div>However, there is also the freedom not fear in Berlin demonstration that is sort of a competing event, as it will draw a lot of people from all over Germany, especially with ACTA going on, and it should be noted the sales of tickets for the train are going very slow as is.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Any thoughts on this?</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div></font></span><div><span><font color="#888888">Justus</font></span><div>
<div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:07 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mattias.bjarnemalm@piratpartiet.se" target="_blank">mattias.bjarnemalm@piratpartiet.se</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>As there seem to be some confusion on the matter I'd like to start by<br>
informing you all that Amelia Andersdotter will not be leading any protest<br>
in Strasbourg the 11 th of March. That statement is entirely inaccurate.<br>
<br>
Let's start at the beginning.<br>
<br>
At 17.05 Amelia received the very same email containing a question wether<br>
she would consider joining the protest. Bellow that part was the same text<br>
as you've all just received on this list. We discussed it briefly in the<br>
office and decided that due to Amelias key position within the internal<br>
political process concerning ACTA it would not be wise for her to lead or<br>
participate in a protest against ACTA outside of the parliament, but that<br>
we would reply that Mr Christian Engström could most likely be convinced<br>
to<br>
participate. As we where in a hurry to finish the tasks at hand before a<br>
meeting with representatives from one of the major smartphone companies we<br>
did not have the time to go into details such as wether we should inform<br>
the Pirate Party of Alsace that if they intended to send a message to the<br>
European Parliament it would probably be better received if transmitted<br>
when the parliament would actually be in Strasbourg. Which the parliament<br>
will not be on the 11 th of March. The Strasbourg session starts after<br>
lunch on the 12 th of Mars, and anything happening here in the weekends is<br>
as remote from the minds of the MEPs as any demostration in a minor remote<br>
french city would be. What we did have time to decide was that we would<br>
have to write to the Pirate Party of Alsace and explain as to why Ms<br>
Andersdotter would not be able to attend.<br>
<br>
At 18.57 we got a new email from the Pirate Party of Alsace telling us to<br>
disregard the previous email and repeating the invitation for Amelia<br>
and/or<br>
Christian to participate. This was 3 minutes before the start of a group<br>
meeting of the Green group so we figured that a reply would have to wait<br>
untill afterwards, or in worst case untill the morning. After all, it<br>
concerned a demonstratation that was due to take place almost four weeks<br>
from now so there seemed to be no hurry.<br>
<br>
At 19.05 while in the group meeting for the Green group I notice on my<br>
smartphone that I have a new email on my party email account. As the<br>
meeting was not overly interesting at that time I took the time to read<br>
the<br>
email. Whiched proved to be a good move as it gave me the oppurtunity to<br>
approach Amelia and show her the message and ask how we should handle the<br>
fact that the pirates of Pirate Party Alsace conciders an absence of a<br>
reply for two hours from a question being asked as a confirmation that you<br>
agree with their proposal. Our decision was that I should swiftly leave<br>
the<br>
group meeting and write a reply to this list so as to avoid any rumors of<br>
Amelias participation in a demonstration the 11 th of March starting to<br>
circulate.<br>
<br>
I hope that the clarification above can achive that results and should<br>
there be any lingering questions regarding wether she intends to be in<br>
Strasbourg the 11 th of March or not even after this clarification do not<br>
hesitate to contact me directly so that I, to the best of my extent, may<br>
answer any such questions.<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
<br>
<br>
Mattias Bjärnemalm<br>
Head of Office<br>
Office of Amelia Andersdotter, MEP<br>
<br>
European Parliament<br>
ASP 06 E 266<br>
Rue Wiertz 60<br>
1047 Brussels<br>
<br>
Tel: <a href="tel:%2B32%280%292%2028%2047922" value="+3222847922" target="_blank">+32(0)2 28 47922</a><br>
Fax: <a href="tel:%2B32%280%292%2028%2049922" value="+3222849922" target="_blank">+32(0)2 28 49922</a><br>
<a href="mailto:mattias.bjarnemalm@europarl.europa.eu" target="_blank">mattias.bjarnemalm@europarl.europa.eu</a><br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:00:31 +0100, Parti Pirate Alsace<br>
<<a href="mailto:alsace.contact@lists.partipirate.org" target="_blank">alsace.contact@lists.partipirate.org</a>> wrote:<br>
</div></div><div><div>> Dear fellow Pirates,<br>
><br>
> In France, we are glad to see all the protests against ACTA throughout<br>
> Europe.<br>
><br>
> The 11th of march we will have huge protests in France, and more<br>
> specifically in Strasbourg.<br>
> The European Parliament will have a session from the 12 of march, so<br>
making<br>
> a protest in Strasbourg, in front of the European Parliament the 11th of<br>
> march, will be a strong signal to them !<br>
><br>
> Having representatives from all the european Pirate Parties ( and from<br>
all<br>
> around the world, if you can come ) would show our utter determination<br>
to<br>
> protect the free flows of ideas. The Euro-Congresswoman Amelia<br>
Anderstotter<br>
> will lead the protest.<br>
><br>
> Join us !<br>
><br>
> Don't hesitate to contact us about accomodations ( we can host some of<br>
you.<br>
> But as it is an European session at the same time, it will be difficult<br>
to<br>
> find free rooms ).<br>
><br>
> Regional section Alsace, Pirate Party France<br>
> <a href="mailto:alsace.contact@lists.partipirate.org" target="_blank">alsace.contact@lists.partipirate.org</a><br>
> Here are some photos of the last protest :<br>
> <a href="https://alsace.partipirate.org/spip.php?article14" target="_blank">https://alsace.partipirate.org/spip.php?article14</a><br>
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