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Te escribo en castellano para facilitarte la comprensión. En
resumen:<br>
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- PPI no es un partido, es una asociación/organización no
gubernamental (NPO)<br>
- PPI no dá órdenes a sus miembros, es un lugar para compartir
iniciativas/experiencias<br>
- No hay ningún problema legal para que PP-Br pertenezca a PPI, como
se ha demostrado por otros tantos partidos Brasileños que pertenecen
a organizaciones internacionales.<br>
<br>
Saludos!<br>
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Now in English for the rest:<br>
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- PPI is not a party, it's a non-profit.<br>
- PPI gives no directives/orders to its members, it's a place for
sharing initiatives/experiences.<br>
- There's no legal problem why PP-Br can't belong to PPI, as shown
by many other Brazilian parties belonging to international
organizations. <br>
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<br>
Regards!<br>
<br>
Kenneth<br>
<br>
On 02/03/12 14:39, Luiz Cruz wrote:
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cite="mid:CAJ+gAYjRsZErYxyyerdKDw3NnvUgO2KrgD6sHrHqweec_B4Bvg@mail.gmail.com"
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<div>Quando comentei este fato com o Fabricio do Canto, pedi a ele
que me enviasse um texto, explicando como o PPI é importante
para o PPBr, com intuíto de evitar um pensamento errôneo sobre o
PPI.</div>
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<div>
Hoje existe um pensamento errado sobre o PPI no Brasil, com isso
solicito ajuda para solucionar este problema.</div>
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<div>As informações chegam meio quebradas aqui no Brasil, por isso
vim diretamente compreender a situação, para poder solucionar
este debate que acontece no PPBr.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Espero a compreensão de todos.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Abraços e Avante Piratas!</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2012/3/2 Jhessica Reia <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jheleiosa@gmail.com">jheleiosa@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I totally
agree. This is not an issue.<br>
PPBr is having some discussions about that, but I think since
we are already members, it is positive to participe in the GA.<br>
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Sincerily,<br>
Jhessica.
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2012/3/2 Gregory Engels <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Gregory.Engels@piratenpartei-hessen.de"
target="_blank">Gregory.Engels@piratenpartei-hessen.de</a>></span><br>
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<div>Hi, </div>
<div><br>
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<div>There cannot be any concern in being a member
of PPI, which is a political International, and
represent the interest of its member in the
international matters. In no case will PPI be able
to dictate anything back to its members. Political
parties should be independent in their political
process and only be "subordinate" to their
respective voters. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>There are several political Parties in Brazil
who are members of political internationals:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>* Partido Democrático Trabalhista (PDT) is
member of Socialist International (SI)</div>
<div>* Democratas (DEM) is member of Centrist
Democrat International (CDI) and of International
Democrat Union (IDU) and Christian Democrat
Organization of America (ODCA) and Union of Latin
American Parties (UPLA)</div>
<div>* Partido da Social Democracia Brasileira
(PSDB) is an observer member of CDI and ODCA</div>
<div>* Partido Verde do Brasil (PV) is member of
Global Greens (GG)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Some other major political parties however do
not have any international affiliations, like
PMDB, PP or PT.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The Statutes of PPI follows the structure and
overall intent of other political internationals,
so I am very positive, that an affiliation with
PPI will never be a problem in a democratic
country.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>sincerely, </div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><br>
Gregory Engels</div>
<div>International Coordinator</div>
<div>Pirate Party of Germany</div>
<div><br>
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<div>mobile: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B49%20172%20853%2044%2091"
value="+491728534491" target="_blank">+49
172 853 44 91</a></div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true">skype:gregory.engels</a></div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true">jabber:dichter@jabber.piratenpartei.de</a></div>
<div>my free time: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://tungle.me/dichter"
target="_blank">https://tungle.me/dichter</a></div>
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<div>On 02.03.2012, at 12:08, Fabricio Do
Canto wrote:</div>
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<p>Dear Friends, <br>
Dear PPIs</p>
<p>The Brasilian Pirates are concerned that
their participation in the PPI might make
it difficult if not impossible for the
PPBR to become an official party.</p>
<p>The reason is that formally no political
party can be subordinate to other
international entities, what is a very
valuable and understood principle. We know
that we work bottom up and not top down,
as the swarm and free internet should be,
but the problem is how to communicate this
to the outside over there.</p>
<p>Therefore I ask you the PPI Members if
any of you had similar experiences in your
respective countries and if so how you
dealt with this.</p>
<p>Looking forward to hear from you,</p>
<p>Fabricio</p>
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Partido Pirata do Brasil<br>
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