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Hi Isabel,<br>
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It would be great to see some Galician Pirates in the forthcoming
GA. Please think about it! There's going to be 6 PP-ES delegates and
4 PP-CAT delegates there, so, we can have a nice time with a lot of
Pilsen beer :)<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Kenneth<br>
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On 04/03/12 10:59, Isabel Fernández wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hello Justus,
We don't think PPI's job regulate between pirates parties either. That's
why we said we'll declare nothing of the sort.
Our suggestion was based on the premise 'one legal territorial pirate
party - one vote' that we think it's a more fair than the actual
situation. We think PPI could give it some thought to this issue.
We'd love to send a delegate to the GA, but rumours are saing that we'll
face elections next autumn at Galician Parlament and still there's a lot
work to do... we're not sure we can attend to Prague. Generally rumours
on this subject turn out to be true at the end. Maybe next time we are
able to send Galician Delegation.
Kind Regards,
Isabel Fernandez.
On 03/03/12 10:51, Justus Römeth wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Thank you Isabel (and the rest of PP-GAL),
I don't think PPI's job is to regulate between individual pirate parties,
but rather to keep the movement growing, by providing infrastructure and a
place to meet for pirates who's country does not have a PP, and by helping
them through the early stages of forming a party. Therefore I don't think a
model that would give PPDE ~20 times as much voting power as the next
biggest party (PPSE is still not a member) would be appropriate.
That is not to say that the current model of PPI concerning the situation
in Spain is optimal. It is not. I think your proposed solution would make
sense for something like PPEU, or a PPI with a much broadened scope (as
well as institutions like the EP, but that is a different matter). As of
yet I don't see the latter happening, however.
Are you (PP-GAL) planning to send a delegate to the General assembly in
Prague?
Kind regards
Justus
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 3:09 AM, HerNenya <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:isabel.fdez@mundo-r.com"><isabel.fdez@mundo-r.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I do apologize since last message was my first mail to this list. I'm
not used to deal w/ digests.
I repeat the message for better reading.
Best Regards to all,
Isabel Fernandez.
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This is a message made by the members of public relations team for
PP-GAL. It is agreed by all the members of mentioned team and we want to
send it through our link in this mailing list of PPI members so it must
be understood in the name of PP-GAL party and not from the sender who
forwards this message.
Since there were direct references to PP-GAL in this list and the way we
organize ourselves in Spain, we consider it is important to be heard in
our oppinion before of the rest of pirates parties of the world.
First of all, we would like to say we are 2 months old as a political
party in Spain and our foundation is based on the structure of Spain as
a country formed by autonomies as such established in the Spanish
Constitution Act [1] in article #148 in order to organize ourselves in
the Spaniard territory. Moreover we have our own idiosyncrasy as
language and culture quite different from other spaniard territories.
Therefore we are an approved political party by the competent Ministry
with same rights and duties as PP-ES and PP-CAT.
As Kenneth from PP-CAT said in other previous message, we are
encouraging a confederation at country level to organize common tasks
that affect us as a nation such the cases of #megacomplaint and
#opColapso (fighting against Sinde-Wert law [2]) that we are supporting
PP-ES, PP-CAT and PP-GAL. Last week we have created a mailing list
called pirata-34 to discuss those affairs.
Regarding the subject about who can vote as a country or by the amount
of pirate members, we consider system of countries is not fair precisely
because of proportion of the population densities and pirates members. A
possible fair solution (as a suggestion) to this matter could be that
depending on the number of members from each pirate party, each party
will provide a proportional amount of the contingency fund of PPI, as
well, each party would have the proportional weight in PPI decisions.
Refering to mentions about how to organize internally the different
pirate parties in Spain, we considered that this mailing list is not the
appropiate place to discuss about it, so we are not going to declare
anything here.
[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/IDIOMAS/9/Espana/LeyFundamental/index.htm">http://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/IDIOMAS/9/Espana/LeyFundamental/index.htm</a>
[2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_Sinde">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_Sinde</a>
Public Relations Team of PP-GAL.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://piratasdegalicia.org/web/">http://piratasdegalicia.org/web/</a>
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Isabel Fdez
GPG EA63DF8E
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