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Hi Justus,<br>
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We fixed the issues you comment by adding a simple 3 rule's base
(Asimov Alike) for Direct Democracy:<br>
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Rule #1: You can never vote against fundamental rights / Human
Rights<br>
Rule #2: You can never vote against Pirate ideology, unless it
violates rule #1<br>
Rule #3: Vote whatever you want which is not against rules #1 and
#2.<br>
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Regards,<br>
<br>
Kenneth<br>
<br>
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Al 28/03/12 17:39, En/na Justus Römeth ha escrit:
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cite="mid:CACWaH_B1qY74JO4C7gbQzQSj4MkBTfihTQApkWgBqFfAKVLhjw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Not sure what a political party should do. As for
individuals, I fully support Dario's opinion.
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<div>Re direct democracy: It is a two-sided sword. I think getting
gay rights for example accepted was made easier through
representative democracy; look at Poland, where a majority of
the people are still against gay rights (so living homosexually
could be made illegal if Poland had a direct democracy). It is
harder to protect minorities in such cases.<br>
Also, the majority of people in Europe in general is against the
death penalty in principle. However, after a very cruel crime
(think Marc Detroux) there might be a temporary majority to have
him sentenced to death. A direct democracy is great, but it has
it's own issues and problems we need to work out.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2012/3/28 Rok Andrée <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:rok.andree@piratskastranka.net">rok.andree@piratskastranka.net</a>></span><br>
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Hi!
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style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>Should
we defend the right to NOT participate in a General
Strike equally to the Right in participating in it?</span></blockquote>
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<div>To even pose such a question is to be against freedome
of expression, though, opinion, belife etc. To say "You
must strike as we are the good ones" is to deny all
other beliefs and as such you are no different than
a tyrant. You are asking if the fundamental human right,
the freedom of expression, should
be applied only selectively to the followers of the
more powerful camp.</div>
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<div>Now for the explanation.</div>
<div>First thing that has to be understood is that the "bad"
people on the other side dont think they are "bad", they
think they are justified in what they are doing. People
supporting them also believe that supporting them is the
right thing to do and that YOU, the people on strike are
the bad people, the people in the wrong. And by alienating
them you prove to them that they are right, that you are
"bad".</div>
<div>So who is right? Well right is the one who wins, but
that's besides the point. </div>
<div>Democracy was founded on this very basis, that a nation
of people will never agree on any point completely. You
have to accept that other people have different opinions
that you will not always be able to change, and be
the civilized person to allow them to have those opinions
as they allow you to have yours.</div>
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<div>To quote George Carlin (i'm paraphrazing, cant find
the accurate quote)</div>
<div>Rights that can be taken away at any time are not
rights but temporary privileges.</div>
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Rok Andrée
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<div class="h5">On 28 March 2012 10:54, Francisco
George <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:francisco.george@gmail.com"
target="_blank">francisco.george@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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My question is for all fellow Pirates all over the
world.
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<div>Do You think there is "good" and "wrong"
rights under certain circumstances?</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Let's take the General Strike that will take
place in Spain tomorrow March, 29th</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Should we defend the right to NOT participate
in a General Strike equally to the Right in
participating in it?</div>
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<div>Or in the frame of such event should we
condemn the people's right to not giving support
to the event?</div>
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<div>Personally I understand that both rights are
equal and should be defended as strongly both of
them.</div>
<div>The Human Rights don't make any distinction
between "Wrong & Good" ones. Freedom &
Rights are equals and none shoul prevail on the
other one.</div>
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<div>Thanks a lot for your thoughts on that matter
be cause here in Spain the dominant philosofy is
"If you are not with me, you are against me"
There is No</div>
<div>tolerance for a Neutral position.</div>
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<div>Best Regards</div>
<span><font color="#888888">
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<div>Francisco George</div>
<div>Press Officer PP-ES</div>
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