Someone is reporting to get deleted the pastebin, so I've decided to change provider, for the sake of transparency: <a href="http://text0.tk/645">http://text0.tk/645</a><br><br>I hope not to have to repost it anymore, and sorry for the inconvenience.<br>
<br>Cheers<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">El 4 de abril de 2012 13:34, Choms <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:choms@botmania.net">choms@botmania.net</a>></span> escribió:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Some people is telling me that pastebin won't load anymore, idk what happened, but here's the new one: <a href="http://pastebin.com/DsZuJRTu" target="_blank">http://pastebin.com/DsZuJRTu</a><br><br>About what Brendan said, there's a formal way to do that? This entire thread can be considered as a formal motion.<br>
<br>Regards<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">El 4 de abril de 2012 13:29, Brendan Molloy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brendan.molloy@pirateparty.org.au" target="_blank">brendan.molloy@pirateparty.org.au</a>></span> escribió:<div>
<div class="h5"><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I would recommend that any party or member of any party that feels PPES<br>
is acting against the spirit of the Pirate movement that they place a<br>
formal motion to have PPES's membership suspending pending investigation<br>
by the CoA.<br>
<br>
I'm tired of hearing about the bullshit. It's time someone puts in a<br>
formal complaint and it is dealt with in a proper and formal manner.<br>
<div><br>
Kenneth Peiruza wrote:<br>
> If you are still a member, I can't understand why you don't have right<br>
> to voice and vote ....<br>
><br>
> This "not all members have right to vote in PP-ES" it's a bit shy...<br>
> (the famous "census" stuff).<br>
><br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Kenneth<br>
><br>
> Al 04/04/12 12:51, En/na David Arcos ha escrit:<br>
>> Hi,<br>
>><br>
>> I will just confirm that this voting exists.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Choms <<a href="mailto:choms@botmania.net" target="_blank">choms@botmania.net</a><br>
</div><div>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:choms@botmania.net" target="_blank">choms@botmania.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi,<br>
>><br>
>> I've just wanted to add that, due this email, and other fake<br>
>> accusations, PP-ES is voting to expel me.<br>
>><br>
>> You can read the full list of accusations and my response to all<br>
>> them (sorry, it's in spanish) here: <a href="http://pastebin.com/KGmgy0dE" target="_blank">http://pastebin.com/KGmgy0dE</a><br>
>><br>
>> The ballot is exactly the same but without my responses, and I<br>
>> have no right on reply nor vote<br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> El 23 de marzo de 2012 15:14, Choms <<a href="mailto:choms@botmania.net" target="_blank">choms@botmania.net</a><br>
</div>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:choms@botmania.net" target="_blank">choms@botmania.net</a>>> escribió:<br>
<div><div>>><br>
>> This is a short report about the situation on PP-ES:<br>
>><br>
>> Our CoA have been "voting" a resolution about the former board<br>
>> and several infractions they did for four weeks. Those<br>
>> infractions include that the former secretary and the former<br>
>> CTO kidnapped the former treasurer mail account, the party's<br>
>> paypal account and even deleted all secretary account emails,<br>
>> which were proof of an illegal drop of aprox 450 affiliates.<br>
>><br>
>> Now all our CoA have been resigned, and there are new illegal<br>
>> CoA elections who break 3 entire articles of our statutes<br>
>> (art. 19.c, 13.c, and 20.b). The former secretary who is<br>
>> charged of all I've mentioned above is postulated as CoA<br>
>> president. One of our affiliated just disputed this election<br>
>> based on above articles plus 7.4 and 8.2, and solicited the<br>
>> convocation of a new extraordinary assembly of the party.<br>
>><br>
>> Have been raised a motion of censure against Daniel Riaño,<br>
>> actual president of Madrid territorial (and member of the<br>
>> party's board) because several "strong language" against other<br>
>> members of the party, members of the Madrid board and members<br>
>> and work of the CoA. After that, he even showed power abuse on<br>
>> the last Madrid assembly, using him status as president to<br>
>> take back some decisions he didn't wanted, using a law that<br>
>> himself broke when he got the charge (Administrative Procedure<br>
>> Act, which doesn't allow to set board members at show of hands<br>
>> which is the way he get the charge with 7 in favor and 4<br>
>> against it, of 60's Madrid's members). After that he even<br>
>> refused on an aggressive manner to end the assembly just to<br>
>> say "I am the president and nothing gets up until I tell"<br>
>> (I've tried to be as accurate as possible on the translation)<br>
>> in front of 6 people.<br>
>><br>
>> For this motion of censure the party is using a tool made by<br>
>> the former CTO who helped the former secretary on all (and<br>
>> more things) I've mentioned on first point. This tool have a<br>
>> little inconvenient, for it's creator and some members of the<br>
>> party nothing important, that is that any administrator can<br>
>> vote as any affiliate, all ballots are served on plain text<br>
>> via administrator's interface. IMHO this is a serious security<br>
>> issue, any admin can vote as any affiliate and there is no way<br>
>> to check what voted who (obviously), and even change the<br>
>> ballots order to get people voting one option while they think<br>
>> they are voting another. The creator of this tool, who refuses<br>
>> to fix the bug, justified telling me that "you can also change<br>
>> the results on the DB, it's more easy". Several admins are<br>
>> implicated directly on what is voting. It's planned to use<br>
>> this tool to vote the new CoA.<br>
>><br>
>> Actual secretary, against my advice, deleted several proofs of<br>
>> Data Protection Act violation, in response to that I told him<br>
>> that was negligent (concretely I told him that he was crazy<br>
>> for deleting that), and now he used that email to justify my<br>
>> expulsion as actual CTO of PP-ES, removing my access and<br>
>> making it impossible to retrieve any data or proof of law<br>
>> violation, data which I was giving to the (now former) CoA<br>
>> (always respecting all points included on Spanish Data<br>
>> Protection Act) to allow them to investigate all<br>
>> irregularities and penal illegalities.<br>
>><br>
>> This is, broadly, the situation of PP-ES, it can be defined<br>
>> (from an affiliate point of view) as impotence and frustration<br>
>> in face of the situation.<br>
>><br>
>> Best Regards,<br>
>> Choms.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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Regards,<br>
<br>
Brendan Molloy<br>
Secretary<br>
Pirate Party Australia<br>
<br>
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