Choms, are you a member? (I'm not gonna answer to not break the law).<div><br></div><div>Anyway, that e-mail was sended all the lists he wanted, and was published, the defense were made.<br><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2012/4/4 Kenneth Peiruza <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kenneth@pirata.cat">kenneth@pirata.cat</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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If you are still a member, I can't understand why you don't have
right to voice and vote ....<br>
<br>
This "not all members have right to vote in PP-ES" it's a bit shy...
(the famous "census" stuff).<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Kenneth<br>
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Al 04/04/12 12:51, En/na David Arcos ha escrit:
<div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br>
<br>
I will just confirm that this voting exists.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Choms <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:choms@botmania.net" target="_blank">choms@botmania.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
I've just wanted to add that, due this email, and other fake
accusations, PP-ES is voting to expel me.<br>
<br>
You can read the full list of accusations and my response to
all them (sorry, it's in spanish) here: <a href="http://pastebin.com/KGmgy0dE" target="_blank">http://pastebin.com/KGmgy0dE</a><br>
<br>
The ballot is exactly the same but without my responses, and I
have no right on reply nor vote<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">El 23 de marzo de 2012 15:14, Choms <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:choms@botmania.net" target="_blank">choms@botmania.net</a>></span>
escribió:
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<p>This is a short report about the situation on
PP-ES:</p>
<div>Our CoA have been "voting" a resolution about the
former board and several infractions they did for
four weeks. Those infractions include that the
former secretary and the former CTO kidnapped the
former treasurer mail account, the party's paypal
account and even deleted all secretary account
emails, which were proof of an illegal drop of aprox
450 affiliates. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Now all our CoA have been resigned, and there are
new illegal CoA elections who break 3 entire
articles of our statutes (art. 19.c, 13.c, and
20.b). The former secretary who is charged of all
I've mentioned above is postulated as CoA president.
One of our affiliated just disputed this election
based on above articles plus 7.4 and 8.2, and
solicited the convocation of a new extraordinary
assembly of the party.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Have been raised a motion of censure against
Daniel Riaño, actual president of Madrid territorial
(and member of the party's board) because several
"strong language" against other members of the
party, members of the Madrid board and members and
work of the CoA. After that, he even showed power
abuse on the last Madrid assembly, using him status
as president to take back some decisions he didn't
wanted, using a law that himself broke when he got
the charge (Administrative Procedure Act, which
doesn't allow to set board members at show of hands
which is the way he get the charge with 7 in favor
and 4 against it, of 60's Madrid's members). After
that he even refused on an aggressive manner to end
the assembly just to say "I am the president and
nothing gets up until I tell" (I've tried to be as
accurate as possible on the translation) in front of
6 people.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>For this motion of censure the party is using a
tool made by the former CTO who helped the former
secretary on all (and more things) I've mentioned on
first point. This tool have a little inconvenient,
for it's creator and some members of the party
nothing important, that is that any administrator
can vote as any affiliate, all ballots are served on
plain text via administrator's interface. IMHO this
is a serious security issue, any admin can vote as
any affiliate and there is no way to check what
voted who (obviously), and even change the ballots
order to get people voting one option while they
think they are voting another. The creator of this
tool, who refuses to fix the bug, justified telling
me that "you can also change the results on the DB,
it's more easy". Several admins are implicated
directly on what is voting. It's planned to use this
tool to vote the new CoA.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Actual secretary, against my advice, deleted
several proofs of Data Protection Act violation, in
response to that I told him that was negligent
(concretely I told him that he was crazy for
deleting that), and now he used that email to
justify my expulsion as actual CTO of PP-ES,
removing my access and making it impossible to
retrieve any data or proof of law violation, data
which I was giving to the (now former) CoA (always
respecting all points included on Spanish Data
Protection Act) to allow them to investigate all
irregularities and penal illegalities.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This is, broadly, the situation of PP-ES, it can
be defined (from an affiliate point of view) as
impotence and frustration in face of the situation.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best Regards,</div>
<div>Choms.</div>
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