I think the discussion should be made at the founding conference, actually. Also, what is wrong with PPEU?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Jerry Weyer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:weyerjerry@gmail.com" target="_blank">weyerjerry@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello Amelia,<div><br></div><div>As usually one of the very first articles in statutes in the name of the organization to be founded I think this is the task of the statutes workgroup. And your proposal makes sense, even if I would want to see if we could take over "EPP" and turn it into sth good, just like we took over "Pirates" ;) </div>
<div><br></div><div>I think the statutes group should prepare a few reasonable alternatives and then at some point in the future make a decision.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Jerry<div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Amelia Andersdotter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:teirdes@gmail.com" target="_blank">teirdes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Dear all,<br>
<br>
I think it should be of high priority for our working groups to
determine a name the abbreviation of which will not be easily
confused with "EPP" (European People's Party). They are presently
the largest parliamentary political group, with around 320 members
belonging to conservative, christian and ultra-conservative/neocon
parties from all over the Union. See <a href="http://www.epp.eu" target="_blank">http://www.epp.eu</a><br>
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For language reasons, also PPE (Partido Popular Europeo) should be
excluded, as well as EP (European Parliament) and PE (Parlement
européene). <br>
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If we form the Party of European Pirates, we could make it a
standing activity to organise PEP-talks.<br>
<br>
sincerely,<br>
<br>
Amelia<br>
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Pe 09.05.2012 01:32, Martina Pöser a scris:
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<p>Dear fellow Pirates,</p>
<p> </p>
<p>there is a lot to do to prepare for the EU elections in 2014.
And what better time to start than now? ;-)</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I've prepared tools for two work groups:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>No. 1: We will try to create a common EU election programme for
all Pirate Parties in member states of the European Union.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Who wants to help here, please subscribe to this mailing list:</p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="http://lists.pp-international.net/listinfo/pp-eu.programme" target="_blank">http://lists.pp-international.net/listinfo/pp-eu.programme</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>No. 2: We will try to create different sets of statutes for a
PPEU ("European Pirate Party/Parties" or "Pirate Party/Parties
of Europe"), one of which might be chosen to become the
foundation for a possible future PPEU.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Who wants to help here, please subscribe to this mailing list:</p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="http://lists.pp-international.net/listinfo/pp-eu.statutes" target="_blank">http://lists.pp-international.net/listinfo/pp-eu.statutes</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>All work will be done in a piratepad and results will be posted
on Wiki and the general PPEU-ML
(<a href="http://lists.pp-international.net/listinfo/pp-eu" target="_blank">http://lists.pp-international.net/listinfo/pp-eu</a>). So anyone
who is only interested in discussing the results can do that
then and there.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>To coordinate our affords we will convene in mumble-conferences
on a regular basis. The meeting place will be the German NRW
mumble/International/PPEU (almost at the end of the list). If
you need help to find the room or set up the server, please ask
me and I try to help you.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>For a first meeting I created two doodles. Please note down the
dates and times which are convenient for you until Thursday
evening 22:00 MET. To make it possible for people (and me) to
visit both meetings, I will choose two different days from the
results.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Doodle for EU Programme Work Group:</p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.doodle.com/5afdbyyfmhykukfy" target="_blank">http://www.doodle.com/5afdbyyfmhykukfy</a> (all times are MET)</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Doodle for PPEU Statutes Work Group:</p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="http://doodle.com/75h6ipg6csew5kqm" target="_blank">http://doodle.com/75h6ipg6csew5kqm</a> (all times are MET)</p>
<p> </p>
<p>During the launch meetings all necessary "orga-foo" will be
discussed, So it would be a good thing for all people who really
want to work with these groups to try to be present then.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Working language will be English, but we will try to translate
any future results into as many languages as possible.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>To contact all possibly interested people, please x-post this
mail on all those lists that you deem the right place for this
and where this mail hasn't been posted yet. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>I hope there will be many people who like to contribute to any
of these two projects, as there will be a lot of work ahead of
us!</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Excitedly,</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Martina Poeser</p>
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