So you think this money goes into the German banks because of benevolence? I think it is just another form of corruption in a way. Well hidden, but there is no real reason to do it other than politician saying that it is 'without alternative' (Oh how I hate those words!)<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Kenneth Peiruza <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kenneth@pirata.cat" target="_blank">kenneth@pirata.cat</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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That is a little bit simplistic and pre-judgement...<br>
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Corruption exists, and is shameful and harmful, but corruption
doesn't evaporate a 10% of Spanish government's budget, banks do it.<br>
<br>
BTW, most Spanish, Italian and Greek debt, which is the main
"reason" for cutbacks in healthcare, education and every other
social expenditure.<br>
<br>
Do you know who owns most of that debt? private german banks.<br>
<br>
That is why Mrs. Merkel is so stressed with the possibility of Greek
government stopping any debt payments.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Kenneth<br>
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Al 16/05/12 18:29, En/na Justus Römeth ha escrit:
<div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite">Well, we are <a href="http://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/2012-05/europa-jugend-arbeitslosigkeit/seite-1" target="_blank">talking</a>
about it in Germany, because of immigration and our universal care
system it will hit us sooner rather than later. I don't think that
austerity is the biggest problem, rather it is corrupt and
incapable politicians that can not be voted out of office (like in
Spain, Italy or Greece) and budget cuts that hit social welfare
and education rather than infrastructure, politicians' wages or
saving 'important' industries like banks, car manufacturers and
the likes.
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<div>The Pirate Party Germany is against the ESM in its current
form (well, officially afaik only the PP of NRW is against it,
but so far any pirate you talked to thinks that it is a bad idea
that is clearly not working).</div>
<div>Combine that with the unconditional basic income and the
freedom of education (as in educational material and free
schools and universities) that we have as official aims and I
think we have found a way to solve this crisis over here.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:10 PM,
Richard Stallman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rms@gnu.org" target="_blank">rms@gnu.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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The biggest political issue in much of Europe today is the
austerity<br>
death spiral, aka shock capitalism.<br>
<br>
That problem is not occurring in Germany, so the Pirate
Party can get<br>
votes there without talking about that issue. However, a
party in<br>
Spain, Italy, or Greece which doesn't give that issue an
important<br>
place is not addressing the people's concerns. The coming
Greek<br>
election will be, in effect, a referendum on this.<br>
<br>
I therefore propose that the Pirate Movement take a stand:
Tyrant<br>
banks, walk the plank!<br>
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--<br>
Dr Richard Stallman<br>
President, Free Software Foundation<br>
51 Franklin St<br>
Boston MA 02110<br>
USA<br>
<a href="http://www.fsf.org" target="_blank">www.fsf.org</a> <a href="http://www.gnu.org" target="_blank">www.gnu.org</a><br>
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.<br>
Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call<br>
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