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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">George Soros is Hungarian (I think) but
migrated to the United States. He made a big fortune gambling on
the stock markets (or with currency speculation) and now devotes
the fortune into helping social movements and society critical
organisations. It's not a problem to be sponsored by Soros, and in
fact a large part of Europe's civil society is taking money from
Soros or Soros-related funds already. <br>
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They are not more or less transparent than any other equivalent
benefactor. They just devote their funds to better causes.<br>
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best regards,<br>
<br>
Amelia<br>
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Pe 01.07.2012 23:53, Anouk Neeteson a scris:<br>
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cite="mid:CAMUTSpX1myTuckHyUO=BVfKZyufBvPm_CDCSCxzJaQX6vR=pZg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Sorry for some of the links, I didn't look too well
into it, but never the less I can't see any transparency in these
organisations.
<div>Anyone knows more about them?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 1 July 2012 22:38, Anouk Neeteson <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jakobsheep@gmail.com" target="_blank">jakobsheep@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Who is really behind <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://avaaz.org/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"
target="_blank">avaaz.org</a>?</div>
<div> I smell there is something wrong.</div>
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://archersofokcular.blogspot.fr/2012/06/avaaz-ever-wondered-who-is-behind-it.html"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://archersofokcular.blogspot.fr/2012/06/avaaz-ever-wondered-who-is-behind-it.html</a></div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.moonofalabama.org/2012/03/avaaz-sponsoring-fake-reporting-from-syria.html"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.moonofalabama.org/2012/03/avaaz-sponsoring-fake-reporting-from-syria.html</a></div>
<div>And even more:</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://keystoliberty.wordpress.com/2012/06/04/soros-connection-part-2/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://keystoliberty.wordpress.com/2012/06/04/soros-connection-part-2/</a></div>
<div>and this goes on and on.</div>
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<div>And what does Avaaz tell about themselves? <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.avaaz.org/en/about.php"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.avaaz.org/en/about.php</a></div>
Basicly NOTHING and I've made my mind up, how about you?
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<div>And what about Change.org? When I read the first page
which petitions are running I wonder to whom it is ment? <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.change.org/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.change.org/</a> It's
a jungle of mostly USA or UK topics like sign this
petition for my dying cat (sorry for my sarcasm, not). And
reading: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.change.org/about/team"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.change.org/about/team</a> I
look up their founder: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Rattray"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Rattray</a></div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nonprofittechblog.org/changeorg-joins-the-ranks-of-widget-makers"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.nonprofittechblog.org/changeorg-joins-the-ranks-of-widget-makers</a>
Son of a CEO of <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_%26_Girls_Clubs_of_America"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_%26_Girls_Clubs_of_America</a> where
he learned community work as a kid and is now a smart
businessman. Another moneymaker or clean and forget-tool
for ones conscience ? <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolution"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolution</a></div>
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<div>That's what I found so far.</div>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<div><br
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
-Anouk</div>
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<div class="h5">On 1 July 2012 17:35, Francisco George <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:francisco.george@gmail.com"
target="_blank">francisco.george@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div class="h5">As I said in my original mail...I
created this petition on <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://actuable.es" target="_blank">actuable.es</a>
that is an initiative that was created around 15M
movement.
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<div>All spanish petitions created there have things
in common with the Indignants movement.</div>
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<div>I don't know the reasons how <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://change.org"
target="_blank">change.org</a> has taken now the
spanish content of <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://actuable.es" target="_blank">actuable.es</a></div>
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<div>Best regards</div>
<span><font color="#888888">
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<div>Francisco George.<br>
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