<div>><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> Thus, even if the voting prorgam</span></div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">> is somehow proved correct, that doesn't mean the system is safe.</span><div>
<br></div>Of course not.<div>There is nothing "100% secure-proofed" in a world where we can't even decide if we're living in the matrix.</div><div>I'm positive that there are possibilities to implement an electronic voting system that is about as good as real life voting, both for non-anonymous votes (rather trivial) as for anonymous voting (not that trivial, e.g. see [0] [1] [2] [2a] [3] [4] ).</div>
<div>The main questions are IMO not of ICT nature (meaning: hardware, operating system, software, architecture, network, etc) ; the easiest attack point for manipulation of both RL and electronic anonymous voting will be IMO lilely always (or at least for the next decades) be related social engineering, which are rather questions of psycho-sociological nature.</div>
<div><br></div><div>On another note, as I said: The paper presented in the first post from 2005 of this thread misses references to IMO crucial related work (some are linked in this mail), which I would expect from a good academic paper. This is may be related due to fact that the paper is from 2005 and more recent work has been done by the electronig voting research community (e.g. see the references in this mail) but which did not recite this work.</div>
<div><br></div><div>[0] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-to-end_auditable_voting_systems">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-to-end_auditable_voting_systems</a>
</div><div>[1] <a href="http://mkorman.org/acsac.pdf" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank">http://mkorman.org/acsac.pdf</a> ADDER system paper, University of Connecticut</div>
<div>[2] <a href="http://static.usenix.org/events/sec08/tech/full_papers/adida/adida.pdf">http://static.usenix.org/events/sec08/tech/full_papers/adida/adida.pdf</a> Helios system paper, Harvard University</div><div>[2a] <a href="http://heliosvoting.org/">http://heliosvoting.org/</a> Helios system website</div>
<div>[3] <a href="http://projects.piratenpartei.ch/projects/pi-vote/files" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank">http://projects.piratenpartei.ch/projects/pi-vote/files</a> PP-CH electronic voting solution based on [1]</div>
<div>[4] <a href="https://github.com/piratepartyca/Stenobot" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank">https://github.com/piratepartyca/Stenobot</a> PP-CA simple electronic voting solution that returns a hash of each vote to the voter</div>
<div><br></div><div>regards</div><div>-pat</div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Richard Stallman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rms@gnu.org" target="_blank">rms@gnu.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If voting uses special software, that software is just one part of the<br>
voting system. The voting system includes the hardware, the operating<br>
system, and social components too. Thus, even if the voting prorgam<br>
is somehow proved correct, that doesn't mean the system is safe.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Dr Richard Stallman<br>
President, Free Software Foundation<br>
51 Franklin St<br>
Boston MA 02110<br>
USA<br>
<a href="http://www.fsf.org" target="_blank">www.fsf.org</a> <a href="http://www.gnu.org" target="_blank">www.gnu.org</a><br>
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.<br>
Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call<br>
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