Don't forget the <b>abstention</b> possibility or blank voting.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 July 2012 15:31, Kenneth Peiruza <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kenneth@pirata.cat" target="_blank">kenneth@pirata.cat</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">There is no perfect voting system, so, stressing whilst trying to find<br>
one is a waste of time.<br>
<br>
One can be forced to vote for anything, even in physical elections. Do<br>
you really think than women are free to pick their vote in male<br>
chauvinist countries? It's not about "somebody pressing you to vote for<br>
X in front of your computer". IMO, that is pointless.<br>
<br>
What happens in districts with only a bunch of voters? If there's 50<br>
voters in a tiny village, do you really think that the mafia-major of<br>
the village will not notice that you didn't stick to what he wanted?<br>
it's fucking easy, the one entering a privacy cabinet to hide what's his<br>
vote, that's the one who didn't voted what he wanted.<br>
<br>
You can't make any election 100% safe, trustable and private. There's<br>
always some flaws. As in software security, you must reach a figure<br>
close to 100% but never expect 100%.<br>
<br>
<br>
In PP-CAT we have a voting system where everyone can see its own vote<br>
and the total result, and only the System administrators (3) of the<br>
server hosting the voting system can check the database to see what<br>
voted every member (so far, it has never been done/requested).<br>
<br>
The software even allows to make the vote public in case of "Y/N"<br>
questions (just 1 option to vote), however we hidden it to ensure<br>
voter's privacy (as this info was public, not only for members).<br>
<br>
This system relies upon trusting these sysadmins, who are a technical<br>
body, not a political structure. If there was any problem with these<br>
people, we can just get new ppl to take care of the servers. However, so<br>
far, there's no "factions" or "sides" in our party, so, we trust this<br>
people for kind'of meritocracy.<br>
<br>
We only use direct democracy, however this organization model (not the<br>
software) would be compatible with liquid democracy as well.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Kenneth<br>
<br>
Al 14/07/12 04:20, En/na Richard Stallman ha escrit:<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> How do you make sure in electronic, non-secret voting that people do not<br>
> get pressured to vote a certain way (think of Neighbourhood, religious<br>
> comunities, spouses, parents, employers, ...)?<br>
><br>
> You can't. That is why government elections need secret ballots.<br>
><br>
> However, there are other kinds of votes which in general<br>
> are not secret. For instance, votes of legislatures. Votes within<br>
> many organizations.<br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Dr Richard Stallman<br>
> President, Free Software Foundation<br>
> 51 Franklin St<br>
> Boston MA 02110<br>
> USA<br>
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> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.<br>
> Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call<br>
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