no global conscientiousness >> no global solutions >> politics & lobbying >> more problems<div><br><div>It IS that simple, only your (as in everybody) unwillingness to conceptualise it prevents all progress >> politics >> disaster</div>
<div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 July 2012 13:33, Gijs Overvliet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:govervliet@gmail.com" target="_blank">govervliet@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
"There is no need to conceal military installations. "<br><br>What gives you the credit to make such a definite claim? Forgive me for doubting the fact that you are in a position to make such strategic military decisions.<br>
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Il giorno 27/lug/2012 10:43, "Antonio Garcia" <<a href="mailto:ningunotro@hotmail.com" target="_blank">ningunotro@hotmail.com</a>> ha scritto:</p><div><br>
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> The "green" selling effort of the nuclear-power-industry has nothing to do with CO2 blame, what they are after is that there is but one way to conceal a military nuclear facility... the radiation noise of a civil nuclear facility. Thus they need the civil application to survive... if they want to be able to conceal the military one.</div>
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<p>There is no need to conceal military installations. </p><div>
<p>> In some way, CO2 proficiency is used only as an useful excuse (in this context), just as combating child porn is the useful excuse in the war on control of the internet.</p>
</div><p>This seems paranoid. Isn't CO2 bad anymore?</p><div>
<p>> This would be of course in the interest of the few TOP LEVEL Competing ELITES.<br>
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> Fighting pollution this way does not only allow them to provide civil nuclear facilities behind which to hide their military nuclear installations... it also allows them to exert pressure on the new emerging economies that can only compete with "dirty" energy because they have no access to the latest clean technology... and there we connect with the Intellectual Propery (both copyright and patent) term extension and enforcement efforts that try to extend our advantage in time.</p>
</div><p>Military technology is not just intellectual property, with great power comes great responsibility, do we want north korea to bomb us? I guess there would be no problem in making those infos public, but the main goal should be to develop non-that-military tech, like thorium. Or ITER, and so on...</p>
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> Antonio García<br>
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> From: <a href="mailto:Gregory.Engels@piratenpartei-hessen.de" target="_blank">Gregory.Engels@piratenpartei-hessen.de</a><br>
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:21:43 +0200<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:rms@gnu.org" target="_blank">rms@gnu.org</a>; <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net" target="_blank">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a></p><div class="im"><br>
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> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Global heating: 2 degrees of heating is 16 years away<br>
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> On 23.07.2012, at 05:42, Richard Stallman wrote:<br>
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> > The whole global warming thing is at least dubious.<br>
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> > Not according to real climate scientists. That "doubt" is FUD<br>
> > intended to convince people to take no action.<br>
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> And in whose interested would this be? In contrast there were<br>
> proven reports that nuclear-power-industry have invested a <br>
> lot in research proving that CO2 is to blame on the coming end<br>
> of the world as we know it, in order to build more nuclear power<br>
> plants, selling them as "green", as they emit zero CO2.<br>
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