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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Al 28/07/12 10:04, En/na Maxime Rouquet
ha escrit:<br>
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<pre wrap="">On 07/25/2012 10:15 AM, Kenneth Peiruza wrote:
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<pre wrap="">About geothermal, well, looks great, however Swiss gov. Auhorized a
company to do ao, and the experiment got cancelled after more tan 400+
earthquakes affeced all the villages in the surrounding area. Iceland is
successful in it's usage, but they don't need to dig 1km to use it, so
leave geothermal for places with active volcanos, something we miss in
most EU zones and even countries...
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By geothermal energy I also speak about installations you can put at one
or two meter deep in your garden/field/other that can use the difference
of temperature between ground and air to heat your house/farm/other.
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That is micro-geothermal, not geothermal. It's not my fault if you
don't explain properly well.<br>
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BTW, that is a SMALL part of a global thing called "sustainable
architecture" (
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) . Double-glass, gas/foam inside of walls, natural light
efficiency, natural ventilation.<br>
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I miss the point of geothermal there...<br>
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If you have places with volcanic activity, you can dig deeper with a
very high efficiency. Such geothermal energy would probably be workable
and powerful everywhere there is a volcano nearby. It is the case on
most islands (in France we have a dozen of overseas territories of that
kind), but there is a wide range of intermediate installations possible.
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As I told you, digging around volcanic areas can easily cause loads
of earthquakes, as already demonstrated in Switzerland and New
Zealand. Looks like Hawai is having problems as well...<br>
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BTW, geothermal plants cause CO2 & CH4 (methane) emissions, H2S
(acid rain) and ammonia (NH3). The water used there is rich in heavy
metals (mercurium and so), and might be processed & reused to
avoid toxic waste, and so and so and so....
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Do you want a private company to operate such a toxic environment
for their economic profit????<br>
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Geothermal energy is not a unique magic solution, but that does not mean
you should trash everything about it in two sentences like this.
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Your solution isn't cheaper than wind power and can't be used in
most countries ( <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_electricity_by_source">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_electricity_by_source</a>
) and has plenty of well known backside effects...<br>
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Ok, it took me 10 minutes to demonstrate how was your point, with
references.<br>
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Is it okay for you now? otherwise, please, don't reply me again
without scientific references... I got rid of religious beliefs.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Kenneth<br>
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