That is what I try to avoid, a political program should stay out of the inner core, and that is also why I do it 'layered' so anyone can add to the core without conflicting with other PP's. I try to think 3D instead of linear as most people do which is also the underlying problem of society. So showing a 'liquid' core is unconventional but you guys gave me this inspiration to create a bridge between differences.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 September 2012 21:30, David Arcos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david.arcos@gmail.com" target="_blank">david.arcos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_quote">TL;DR: YMMV from country to country.</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Thomas Bruderer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:apophis@apophis.ch" target="_blank">apophis@apophis.ch</a>></span> wrote:<div class="im">
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">But if you would ask: would you support a Liquid Democracy schema for the governement, the answer would be as clearly: No, not all, this won't help us to find the best solutions for our country.</blockquote>
</div></div><br><div>Let's agree with you: DD/LD won't be the best for "your" contry.</div><div><br></div><div>However, your country is Switzerland. You already have plenty of citizen participation tools!</div>
<div><br></div><div>The situation in my country (Spain) is very different. We don't have Transparency, nor Participation: the transparency law is a fake, we have no "open-government" or accountability on public spending, we don't do referendums (they changed the Constitution without asking the citizens first). Well, in fact, <b>calling for a referendum is ilegal</b>, and will get you to prison.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Given our situation, I can assure you that our priorities are Transparency and Participation. Without both, our political system is too corrupt, too undemocratic.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>
I can understand that a Swiss pirate doesn't have the urgency of improvement his Citizen Participation tools, and that for a Swedish pirate it's not a priority to improve their Transparency laws. But please understand this is not universal, and that most of the contries have big gaps in both issues.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Let's go further, and pick some more lower-level issues: patented medicines, or patented food. As a Spanish, I never had (day-to-day) problems with those issues. However, I can see that it's a threat for millions of people in the world, and for them it's a "pirate core issue" much more important than repelling a three-strike law.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div></div>
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