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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">You are right, it isn't a core value of
all PP's.<br>
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I'd love to see how many of us are in favor of direct/liquid
democracy. Probably we're all but 5 parties out of 50, considering
a PP even something which is still only a facebook page.<br>
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And as far as I know, 2 non direct-democracy driven parties are on
its way to review its ideology: PP-UK and PP-SE.<br>
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It might be interesting to vote about this in every PP around the
globe, as this is the only point that makes us different from any
other political movement around (the greens have assimilated all
PP-SE's program), and lets us campaign for every hot topic in the
public agenda.<br>
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Regards,<br>
<br>
Kenneth<br>
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Al 24/09/12 16:24, En/na Mattias Bjärnemalm ha escrit:<br>
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Direct democracy is not a core value of all pirate parties.
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<div>/Mab</div>
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Anouk Neeteson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jakobsheep@gmail.com"><jakobsheep@gmail.com></a> skrev:<br>
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<div class="im"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Introduction,
I am helping the pirate party Netherlands, Belgium and France
with International coordination.</div>
<div class="im"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">At
this moment these PP are growing so quick from a small (a few
dozen pirates) number to a big (1000 and more) number that there
are obvious organisational problems.</div>
<div class="im"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br>
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<div class="im"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">My
point is that I can not get rid of the impression that the chaos
is basicly around the fear of loosing the true Pirate
principles/values due this change. So what are the true pirate
values clearly defined?</div>
<div class="im"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">In
my search I come to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://int.piratenpartei.de/Uppsala_Declaration#Uppsala_Declaration">http://int.piratenpartei.de/Uppsala_Declaration#Uppsala_Declaration</a> the
Uppsala declaration. <font face="arial, sans-serif">Here I find
the pirate values being </font><b><font face="arial,
sans-serif">described </font></b><font face="arial,
sans-serif">but not </font><b>defined</b><font face="arial,
sans-serif">. So I give it a try to get a <b>synthesis</b>.</font></div>
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<div class="im" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br>
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<div class="im"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">So
if I am not mistaking the PP objectives are:</div>
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style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br>
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<div class="im"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">1-
Transparent governing and all public organisations have to
become transparent as well.</div>
<div class="im"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br>
</div>
<div class="im" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<font face="arial, sans-serif">2- </font><font face="arial,
sans-serif">Direct democracy and participation of
all citizens.</font></div>
<div class="im" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font
face="arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">3-
</span>A complete review of the copyrights and patenting system.
<div><br>
<div>
<div class="im"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">4-
Protection and guarantee of privacy and safety.</div>
<div class="im"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br>
</div>
<span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">5-
</span><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">In
consideration with point 4 the freedom on information,
education and knowledge.</span></div>
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<div><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">These
need surely additional wording but firstly do they need more
core points ?</span></div>
<div><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">-Anouk-</span></div>
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