<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Yes, it is insisted upon for membership to PPI. Nevertheless, an alternative PPIT can be formed, and if the original PPIT gets kicked out, they can apply for membership.<div><br><div><div>On 25/09/2012, at 7:57 PM, Zbigniew Łukasiak wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Not really going into the question who is responsible and all that - that is important of course - but I think the most important question here is - do we insist that there should be only one pirate party per country? There are many ways for people to disagree and we should somehow be prepared for this. <div> <br></div><div>--</div><div>zby<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Pilar Saavedra <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pilarsaavedra.p@gmail.com" target="_blank">pilarsaavedra.p@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Dear PP International,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I represent here 35 people from various fields (IT professionals, Journalists and Media/Communication Managers) that are waiting to be inserted in the Italian Pirate Party since 3 months now.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">We have been regularly certified and we paid the subscription fees.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">You can find all the forms with original signatures here:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/caafv4ianc7l7fg/RE6_FBQTqN" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/sh/caafv4ianc7l7fg/RE6_FBQTqN</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The problem is clear: the subscription would give us also the right to vote in Liquid Feedback witch is binding and fully decisional by Statutes for the PP IT.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">So it’s quite clear that the Liquid Feedback administrator is not inserting us because he’s afraid that we will vote against his (or his group of friends?) proposals and we could take the control of the Party…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Isn’t this a real paradox and scandal for a Party that wants to promote transparency, openness and liquid democracy?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I really hope that someone from the PP Int can take charge of this because it’s simply destroying the Pirates’ reputation even at an international level.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Kind regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Pilar Saavedra</span></p> <br>____________________________________________________<br> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br> <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br> <a href="http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general" target="_blank">http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Zbigniew Lukasiak<br><a href="http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/">http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href="http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/">http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/</a><br> </div> ____________________________________________________<br>Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br><a 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