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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'd support it, we never start it, just
      check the logs.<br>
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      Al 25/09/12 18:41, En/na Josef Ohlsson Collentine ha escrit:<br>
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cite="mid:CADPtX5xQ=Q478M7VzyVAOY3S+d_JW2vn4RD=SMR1O_tUyxzDJw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">For the sake of conversation can someone from PPI
      please start moderating this list... Especially for talks about
      PPES vs PPCAT that are taking over majority of threads. 
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      <div>/josef<br>
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               1. Re: Obsession with Gibraltar (Kenneth Peiruza)<br>
               2. Re: Italian Pirate Party - Scandal (Kenneth Peiruza)<br>
               3. Re: Italian Pirate Party - Scandal (HerNenya)<br>
               4. Re: Italian Pirate Party - Scandal (Zbigniew ?ukasiak)<br>
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            Message: 1<br>
            Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:26:32 +0200<br>
            From: Kenneth Peiruza <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:kenneth@pirata.cat">kenneth@pirata.cat</a>><br>
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            Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Obsession with Gibraltar<br>
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            Poor Antonio, he's the one who didn't knew about the
            resignation of the<br>
            whole CoA. So, nobody can attend his whining xDD<br>
            <br>
            BTW Antonio, you, over-lord-of-law-interpretation. Didn't
            you realized<br>
            that you're a single person and CoA can't attend personal
            petitions but<br>
            just PPI member's petitions? Hopefully, PPI is formed by
            Pirate Parties,<br>
            not by individual fools.<br>
            <br>
            So, stop whining, every time you write about this CoA shit,
            you<br>
            strengthen my point that you aren't as smart as you believe
            you're.<br>
            You're just a mess of radical Spanish nationalism and
            totalitarian<br>
            deliriums: you're against liquid/direct democracy calling it
            idiocracy,<br>
            and there's PP-CAT or Gibraltar in 1 out of 2 emails sent by
            you.<br>
            <br>
            Everyone knows these things in your party, that's why they
            banned you<br>
            from their mailing lists. AFAIK, you're still a member of
            PP-ES because<br>
            PP-ES secretary left the party, and there's nobody left to
            process<br>
            resignations...<br>
            <br>
            And as you're not going to believe me, I'd suggest you to
            check PPI<br>
            statutes to see the attributions of CoA, as we did to
            present our points :)<br>
            <br>
            You know, your personal desires can't be over PPI statutes!<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            Get a life!!!<br>
            <br>
            K.<br>
            <br>
            PS: I've you in my spam filter, so, I will not read your
            replies :)<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            Al 25/09/12 16:57, En/na Jordi Soucheiron ha escrit:<br>
            > Don't feed the troll<br>
            ><br>
            > 2012/9/25 Antonio Garcia <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ningunotro@hotmail.com">ningunotro@hotmail.com</a><br>
            > <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ningunotro@hotmail.com">ningunotro@hotmail.com</a>>><br>
            ><br>
            >     As member of the remembered Court of Arbitration,
            maybe your<br>
            >     priority should be to tell our readers where my
            complaint about "a<br>
            >     breach of PPI Statutes" and "fraudulent rephrasing
            of an PPI<br>
            >     Statutes Article to fit unwarranted desires of
            some"... remain<br>
            >     lost in the CoA bureaucracy.<br>
            ><br>
            >     My use of Gibraltar as a figure is only for the
            sake of comparing<br>
            >     gravity of the issue, and smearing my anarchist
            background on its<br>
            >     use is unworthy of you and the post you occupied, a
            clear Ad Hominem.<br>
            ><br>
            >     Antonio.<br>
            >     PP-ES<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            >     > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:36:00 +0200<br>
            >     > From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:arturo.martinez@pp-international.net">arturo.martinez@pp-international.net</a><br>
            >     <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:arturo.martinez@pp-international.net">arturo.martinez@pp-international.net</a>><br>
            >     > To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            >     <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            >     > Subject: [pp.int.general] Obsession with
            Gibraltar<br>
            ><br>
            >     ><br>
            >     > Dear Antonio Garcia,<br>
            >     ><br>
            >     > Given that 98% of people in Gibraltar voted
            against joining Spain...<br>
            >     > Why would a pirate Spanish or otherwise find
            offence?<br>
            >     ><br>
            >     > Your repetitive circular arguments suggest
            that you believe that<br>
            >     > repeating a lie many times will make it true
            and that contrary<br>
            >     to your<br>
            >     > self-confessed anarchist outlook, you are a
            Spanish nationalist.<br>
            >     ><br>
            >     > I am yet to hear a bona fide anarchist of any
            nationality moan about<br>
            >     > Gibraltar<br>
            >     ><br>
            >     > Have a nice day<br>
            >     ><br>
            >     > On 09/25/2012 03:14 PM,<br>
            >     > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            wrote:<br>
            >     > > about the meaning of the word "Country"
            in the Statutes of PPI<br>
            >     to grant Spain an unasked for second Gibraltar in
            Catalonia, and<br>
            >     fraudulently rephrased one of the articles of the
            Statutes to<br>
            >     grant the General Assembly more discretionary
            decision power on<br>
            >     the admittance of new members than she really has
            (sidetracking<br>
            >     for the Catalonian Pirate Party provisions in the
            Statutes that<br>
            >     were strictly observed to reject the application of
            other Pirate<br>
            >     Parties), will be declared void.<br>
            >     ><br>
            >     ><br>
            >     >
            ____________________________________________________<br>
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            >    
            ____________________________________________________<br>
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            Message: 2<br>
            Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:28:47 +0200<br>
            From: Kenneth Peiruza <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Italian Pirate Party - Scandal<br>
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            Al 25/09/12 17:10, En/na MRE ha escrit:<br>
            > Dear Antonio,<br>
            ><br>
            > What you said in your last email I already knew was
            your opinion, I<br>
            > wasn't asking you to repeat that, I'm sorry if I wasn't
            clear enough.<br>
            ><br>
            > I was asking your opinion on another question: Do you
            think that the<br>
            > PPI should be able to decide who is and who is not a
            member of PP-IT?<br>
            ><br>
            > Best regards,<br>
            ><br>
            >                Muriel<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            > 2012/9/25 Antonio Garcia <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ningunotro@hotmail.com">ningunotro@hotmail.com</a>>:<br>
            >> That is an easy one, Muriel. I'm surprised you dare
            ask.<br>
            >><br>
            >> Because the PPI GA did not have the right, per its
            own Statutes, to grant<br>
            >> Pirates de Catalunya full member status the way it
            was done after Kenneth<br>
            >> blackmailed it threatening to derail the GA with
            all the international press<br>
            >> present only months before two important elections
            in Germany.<br>
            >><br>
            <br>
            Hahahahaha<br>
            <br>
            Poor fool.<br>
            <br>
            You missed Samir and Thomas trolling the GA in front of the
            press,<br>
            right? maybe that happened whilst the GA was voting and
            there was no<br>
            PP-ES delegate present in the room to vote...<br>
            <br>
            Oh man, have you considered suicide?<br>
            <br>
            <br>
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            Message: 3<br>
            Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:31:56 +0200<br>
            From: HerNenya <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:isabel.fdez@mundo-r.com">isabel.fdez@mundo-r.com</a>><br>
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            Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Italian Pirate Party - Scandal<br>
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            On 25/09/12 16:43, Francisco George wrote:<br>
            ><br>
            > Catalonia is reaching out for idenpendency so they will
            have all the<br>
            > time to be restored as full member.<br>
            That statement is not quite accurate.<br>
            <br>
            The catalonian people are discussing this issue, but they
            haven't get an<br>
            statement yet and it is not so sure they are going to be an
            independent<br>
            state.<br>
            <br>
            So please, use other arguments and try not to manipulate
            other people's<br>
            views to reach your own purposes.<br>
            <br>
            Best Regards,<br>
            <br>
            Isabel Fdez.<br>
            PP-GAL<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
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            >     Re: Italian Pirate Party - Scandal<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
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            ><br>
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            Message: 4<br>
            Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:34:27 +0200<br>
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            On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Kenneth Peiruza <<a
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            wrote:<br>
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            > Al 25/09/12 17:10, En/na MRE ha escrit:<br>
            > > Dear Antonio,<br>
            > ><br>
            > > What you said in your last email I already knew
            was your opinion, I<br>
            > > wasn't asking you to repeat that, I'm sorry if I
            wasn't clear enough.<br>
            > ><br>
            > > I was asking your opinion on another question: Do
            you think that the<br>
            > > PPI should be able to decide who is and who is not
            a member of PP-IT?<br>
            > ><br>
            > > Best regards,<br>
            > ><br>
            > >                Muriel<br>
            > ><br>
            > ><br>
            > ><br>
            > ><br>
            > > 2012/9/25 Antonio Garcia <<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ningunotro@hotmail.com">ningunotro@hotmail.com</a>>:<br>
            > >> That is an easy one, Muriel. I'm surprised you
            dare ask.<br>
            > >><br>
            > >> Because the PPI GA did not have the right, per
            its own Statutes, to<br>
            > grant<br>
            > >> Pirates de Catalunya full member status the
            way it was done after<br>
            > Kenneth<br>
            > >> blackmailed it threatening to derail the GA
            with all the international<br>
            > press<br>
            > >> present only months before two important
            elections in Germany.<br>
            > >><br>
            ><br>
            > Hahahahaha<br>
            ><br>
            > Poor fool.<br>
            ><br>
            > You missed Samir and Thomas trolling the GA in front of
            the press,<br>
            > right? maybe that happened whilst the GA was voting and
            there was no<br>
            > PP-ES delegate present in the room to vote...<br>
            ><br>
            > Oh man, have you considered suicide?<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            No I feel ashamed for taking part in this conversation.  Is
            that acceptable<br>
            for this mailing list?<br>
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