<p>Thanks Kenneth for the political answer. Now it is clear to me.<br>
Anouk</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 7, 2012 3:55 p.m., "Kenneth Peiruza" <<a href="mailto:kenneth@pirata.cat">kenneth@pirata.cat</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Please, re-read my first email, there
everything is explained :)<br>
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Al 07/10/12 14:08, En/na Anouk Neeteson ha escrit:<br>
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great news Kenneth, only I still do not understand the relation
between the given law and not publishing the minutes. Privacy
matters are irrelevant to this law. What I say is that the use
of this argument is invalid. And therefor I ask again what is
the reason not to publish the minutes right now? Please
understand me, this is not an attack, but since the Catalonian
pirates are the only pirates not publishing these minutes and in
my trying to understand international relations I still have my
formal question open. I understand the need of editing of the
past minutes, but what is the procedure for the next meeting or
otherwise put, can we see it on the our list then? (since there
is no legal reason for this)<br>
Anouk</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 7, 2012 12:14 p.m., "Kenneth
Peiruza" <<a href="mailto:kenneth@pirata.cat" target="_blank">kenneth@pirata.cat</a>>
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<div>That is exactly.what we said we approved in my email xD<br>
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<font>Salut!</font> <br>
Anouk Neeteson <<a href="mailto:jakobsheep@gmail.com" target="_blank">jakobsheep@gmail.com</a>>
escribió:<br>
Hi Kenneth, thanks for the quick reply. Ans as always, an
answer gives<br>
another question. The sanctions mentioned in Artículo 45 are
only for<br>
those that enforce 'confession', it does NOT state:" It's is
strictly<br>
forbidden to reveal the ideology of a person." But it would
be like:<br>
"It is strictly forbidden to enforce to have someone reveal
his/her<br>
ideologie." So I don not understand the argumentation NOT to
share the<br>
general assembly's minutes because of the LOPD.<br>
In the Netherlands if someone does not want to have their
name<br>
published, they got a pseudonym for that purpose. Why don't
you do it<br>
the same way in Catalonia? Especially since it is so
essential for the<br>
transparency as you claim to support.<br>
<br>
Anouk Neeteson<br>
member international coordination Belgium and the
Netherlands.<br>
(proposing an international coordination team in France next
AG in Montreuil)<br>
<br>
<br>
On 7 October 2012 09:23, Dario <<a href="mailto:dario@pirata.cat" target="_blank">dario@pirata.cat</a>>
wrote:<br>
> 2012/10/7 Anouk Neeteson <<a href="mailto:jakobsheep@gmail.com" target="_blank">jakobsheep@gmail.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>> Hi Kenneth, can you give me the precise text in the
Spanish LOPD ? I<br>
>> am very curious how it states / defines: " It's is
strictly forbidden<br>
>> to reveal the ideology of a person." ? And I can
not find it, but<br>
>> again my Spanish is really bad :)<br>
><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Admin/lo15-1999.t2.html#a7" target="_blank">http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Admin/lo15-1999.t2.html#a7</a><br>
><br>
>> Artículo 7. Datos especialmente protegidos.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 1. De acuerdo con lo establecido en el apartado 2
del artículo 16 de la<br>
>> Constitución, nadie podrá ser obligado a declarar
sobre su ideología,<br>
>> religión o creencias.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Quick translation:<br>
><br>
>> Article 7. Sensitive data.<br>
>> 1. By Constitution, nobody can be forced to tell
about their ideology,<br>
>> religion or beliefs.<br>
><br>
><br>
> And the fine for doing something like publishing the
political affiliation<br>
> of people is stated here:<br>
> <a href="http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Admin/lo15-1999.t7.html#a45" target="_blank">http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Admin/lo15-1999.t7.html#a45</a>
"Only"<br>
> between 300.000 and 600.000€.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Dario Castañé<br>
> <a href="http://www.dario.im" target="_blank">http://www.dario.im</a> | <a href="http://twitter.com/im_dario" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/im_dario</a><br>
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