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Your delusion is touching, Marco.<br><br>The problem for direct democracy nowadays is the insufficient democratic and intellectual level of the crowd where mass dynamics apply.<br><br>Guess you should watch Idiocracy... to understand while you still can.<br><br><br>Antonio.<br><br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:07:30 +0200<br>> From: archamond@gmail.com<br>> To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] This year, I'm voting against representative democracy.<br>> <br>> What's his issue with attempt at direct democracy?<br>> I'd guess it is 'failing' mainly because to successfully implement it<br>> you need to use some sort of advanced technology. If for every law you<br>> have referendum and you have to go to your physical voting place, of<br>> course it will fail miserably. You need to be doing it online.<br>> <br>> Not understand his point completely tho, he complains about cost and<br>> influence of corporations in current legislating procedure, while it<br>> is even worse with representative system. IMHO, he makes false<br>> assumption that elected people are actually professionals and experts<br>> about various issues while in fact they are easily corruptible and in<br>> most countries probably painfully incompetent.<br>> <br>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Charly Pache <charly.pache@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> > "<br>> > Bram Cohen · 10,500 subscribers<br>> > Thursday at 7:07pm via Buffer ·<br>> ><br>> > This year, I'm voting against representative democracy.<br>> > Here in California we have this ridiculous system where effectively all tax<br>> > increases have to be put to a vote and new laws can be created by a simple<br>> > majority of people who actually vote.<br>> > I think both of these are insane. We elect people so that laws and taxes can<br>> > be done by professionals, and the results of California's experiment in<br>> > direct democracy are reliably disastrous. The state chronically doesn't have<br>> > enough money and tax increases are at best mixed with gimmicky feel-good<br>> > measures. Laws passed by ballot are typically corrupt and make money for<br>> > their corporate sponsors, and even when that isn't the case they're usually<br>> > poorly thought out and misleading. So I'm voting with the following<br>> > strategy, as a protest against my right to vote:<br>> > Voting IN FAVOR of anything which undoes a previous ballot measure, for<br>> > example three strikes. There are frequently a lot of these.<br>> > Voting IN FAVOR of anything which primarily raises money for the state.<br>> > Voting IN FAVOR of keeping the ballot districts which were drawn up by the<br>> > citizens commission (this year brings a new innovation in things which<br>> > shouldn't be subject to referendum!)<br>> > Voting AGAINST everything else. Yes this means voting against a lot of<br>> > seemingly touchy feely things, but most of those don't mean what you think<br>> > they mean, and even the ones which approximately do tend to be extremely<br>> > poorly drafted pieces of legislation. Many of the descriptions of what the<br>> > new laws will do are downright fraudulent, a predictable effect of being<br>> > able to get possible new laws on the ballot just by raising enough money to<br>> > collect signatures.<br>> > My one exception this year will be voting in favor of getting rid of the<br>> > death penalty, because it's very clear what the effect of that legislation<br>> > is, it's an embarrassment that it hasn't been done already, and it saves a<br>> > ton of money.<br>> > "<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:<br>> >><br>> >> I hope many of us have no Facebook accounts and can't access that page,<br>> >> so can you show us what it says?<br>> >><br>> >> --<br>> >> Dr Richard Stallman<br>> >> President, Free Software Foundation<br>> >> 51 Franklin St<br>> >> Boston MA 02110<br>> >> USA<br>> >> www.fsf.org www.gnu.org<br>> >> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.<br>> >> Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call<br>> >><br>> >> ____________________________________________________<br>> >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> >> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > ____________________________________________________<br>> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> > pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br>> ><br>> ____________________________________________________<br>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br></div> </div></body>
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