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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">SImple question:<br>
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How many of us will be blocked at the border?<br>
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<div class="moz-signature"><b>Alexis Roussel</b> / Pirate /
Vice-Président Parti Pirate Suisse <br>
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On 12/06/2012 05:20 PM, Justus Römeth wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">I think there would be a lot of symbolic value in having the conference in the Americas or Northern Africa, so if there are serious applications those should have priority. There are lots of options to meet each other in Europe besides PPI conferences, it would only be fair to try to allow different parties not to participate remotely (that way the usual suspects learn how hard it is to set up proper remote participation, while 2015's organizers, who are most likely European, could experience remote participation first hand). That is unless we can find a way to pay the travel expenses for a certain number of delegates, as soon as we can make sure every party (=ordinary member) can participate we should just try to keep the costs as far down as possible.
On 06.12.2012, at 16:06, Antonio Garcia <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ningunotro@hotmail.com"><ningunotro@hotmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Maybe, if we decided that two delegates from each member country travel on PPI expenses, funded by admission fees, and set the fees for everyone at such a level that the needed funds are collected... countries who have to travel far could be present at PPI GAs, and not asking to organize one so as to not to have to travel.
Location should be chosen rationally so as to keep the total sum of travel expenses as low as possible. It is easier to fund a few travels to Europe than to have everyone in Europe travel somewhere else.
When the cost of moving everyone to some other continent more or less equals the cost of moving everyone to Europe... we can consider a GA elsewhere that might be interesting to have.
Antonio
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<pre wrap="">Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:49:59 +0100
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jelena.the.one@gmail.com">jelena.the.one@gmail.com</a>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a>
Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] PPI GA 2013 - Call for Hosts
If there is PPI foundation and if at least if travel expenses would be
covered, I guess it would make things easier for lot of activists from
Europe.
I personally love the option with US but it might easily happen that I
am the only one who would arrive to that conference counting Balkans
are underdeveloped markets and prices hare are significantly smaller.
On the other hand travelling around Europe has good price that
majority can afford.
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Anton Nordenfur
<<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:anton@nordenfur.se">anton@nordenfur.se</a><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:anton@nordenfur.se"><mailto:anton@nordenfur.se></a>> wrote:
Ah, I see. Thank you.
A
On 6 Dec 2012 04:21, "Mozart Olbrycht-Palmer"
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wrote:
All conferences have been held in Europe so far. While Europe has "the
most active pirates," there are still parties in the rest of the world.
It is therefore seen as important to have a non-European conference so
that other parties are acknowledged. The last conference was meant to
take place outside Europe, but because there were no serious
applications (Tunisia's was the only application not in Europe, and it
was not well thought out) it was held in Prague.
It would make PPI even more unpopular with non-European parties if the
conference was not held somewhere else.
On 06/12/2012, at 9:40 AM, Anton Nordenfur wrote:
Why is it that the GA is being planned outside of Europe? Europe has
the most active pirates. What am I missing?
A
On 5 Dec 2012 23:11,
<<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:marco.confalonieri@email.it">marco.confalonieri@email.it</a><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marco.confalonieri@email.it"><mailto:marco.confalonieri@email.it></a>>
wrote:
I think that you should probably look for the numbers of GA2012 for an
approx. idea.
Marco Confalonieri
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