<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Dear et al,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>So the solution seems simple to me. Transparency could be the rule. First, every participant eligible to vote, gets a new email account, say PPI1-100,000@Gmail.com taking 20 seconds.. The new email address is sent to voter maillist. A simple Google doc with button questions in multiple languages emailed to only those on the list. Tabulated instantly. One vote for each emailed invitation. Seems good, although I prefer a face to face vote, which is definitely not
secret.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I just went through a vote with 500+ at the annual Republican elections to vote in the years committee officers in the county that controls the state. I ran for the top position, chair, then when I lost, I ran for Vice Chair. I left before hearing the count for Vice. The votes are written for officers, kinda secret, and then yelling yay or nay for matters brought up, definitely not secret. Even so called secret votes, aren't. I have been running to oust a long standing legislator here in Seattle. I asked how the votes went and was given a PDF of who people voted for under the heading of Write
In.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>It's a good discussion ...</span></div><div></div><div> </div><div><span style="font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 18px;">I remain sincerely yours,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 18px;"><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent;"><span style="font-family: garamond, 'new york',
times, serif; font-size: 18px; font-style: italic;">John Dickinson</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 18px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 18px;">=access Since 1991 <br>"Be the change that you want <br>to see in the world." <br>M. K. Gandhi </span><br></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org><br> <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Pirate Parties International -- General Talk <pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, December 10, 2012 7:16 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [pp.int.general] Online voting versus online discussion<br> </font> </div> <br>
The problems of computerized voting are consequences of the secret ballot.<br>In a non-secret election, it is easy to avoid these problems.<br>It's sufficient to publish the complete list of everyone's vote.<br><br>-- <br>Dr Richard Stallman<br>President, Free Software Foundation<br>51 Franklin St<br>Boston MA 02110<br>USA<br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.fsf.org/">www.fsf.org</a> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.gnu.org/">www.gnu.org</a><br>Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.<br> Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call<br><br>____________________________________________________<br>Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br><a ymailto="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net" href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br><br><br> </div> </div> </div></body></html>