<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Dear et al,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>Your clarification leaves me clouded re: your decision whether to post my on-topic replies concerning prior restraint, censorship of ideas and views, and the tons of slams heaped upon Italian pirates who I felt needed someone to speak up in their defense.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>"Prefer leaving on good terms...." does this mean I have been left, and will be left out of discussions. Left behind on shore? ... "so maybe we can leave it at that" does nothing to clarify your decision. I respectfully, sincerely respectfully, expect a straight answer. I really don't think our ships fly a different flag, but maybe they might catch a different wind at times.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>But, as mentioned, I will respect your decision, and go to the gallows unassisted by my pegs with my head high, without
attacking a fellow.</span></div><div></div><div> </div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; ">I remain sincerely yours,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; "><span style="font-size: 18px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; "><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18px; background-color: transparent; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; "><span style="font-size: 18px; font-style: italic; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; ">John Dickinson</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; "><span style="font-size: 18px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; "><br></span></div><div><span
style="font-size: 18px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; ">=access Since 1991 <br>"Be the change that you want <br>to see in the world." <br>M. K. Gandhi </span><br></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Josef Ohlsson Collentine <josef@piratetimes.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> john dickinson <jrdickinson@yahoo.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Gefion <gefion@piratetimes.net>; Daniel Ebbert <daniel@piratetimes.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:05 PM<br> <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: ppnews post from jrdickinson@yahoo.com requires approval<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id="yiv2048489138"><div dir="ltr">Hi John,<div><br></div><div style="">let me clarify. The mail you sent out was to several recipients:</div><div style=""><blockquote class="yiv2048489138gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<span style="font-size: 12.727272033691406px; font-family: arial, sans-serif; ">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br></span><span style="font-size: 12.727272033691406px; font-family: arial, sans-serif; ">From: john dickinson <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jrdickinson@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jrdickinson@yahoo.com">jrdickinson@yahoo.com</a>><br>
</span><span style="font-size: 12.727272033691406px; font-family: arial, sans-serif; ">To: Simon Frew <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:simon.frew@pirateparty.org.au" target="_blank" href="mailto:simon.frew@pirateparty.org.au">simon.frew@pirateparty.org.au</a>>, The Internal Mailing List <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ppnews@lists.pp-international.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:ppnews@lists.pp-international.net">ppnews@lists.pp-international.net</a>>, "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a>><br>
</span><span style="font-size: 12.727272033691406px; font-family: arial, sans-serif; ">Cc: <br></span><span style="font-size: 12.727272033691406px; font-family: arial, sans-serif; ">Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:49:26 -0800 (PST)<br></span><span style="font-size: 12.727272033691406px; font-family: arial, sans-serif; ">Subject: Re: [<a target="_blank" href="http://pp.int.ge/">pp.int</a>.general] PP IT and Its Non-Democratic Organization</span></blockquote>
<div style="font-size: 12.727272033691406px; font-family: arial, sans-serif; "><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:garamond,;"><div style="font-size:12pt;"><br></div><div style="font-size:12pt;">To Simon is fine since you had the discussion with him. </div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;">To the pp.international list = doubtful since it's outside the subject topic of "PP IT and its non-democratic organization".<br>To ppnews list, an internal list for Pirate Times members. Here we discuss articles we wrote, ask for help or give a suggestion on an article = highly irrelevant for this list.</div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;"><br></div><div style="font-size:12pt;">Prefer leaving on good terms so maybe we can just leave it at that.</div><div style="font-size:12pt;"><br></div><div style="font-size:12pt;">Kindly,</div><div style="font-size:12pt;">
Josef</div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv2048489138gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="yiv2048489138gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 9:30 PM, john dickinson <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jrdickinson@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jrdickinson@yahoo.com">jrdickinson@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv2048489138gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; "><div><span>Josef, et al.</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,;">
<span><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,;"><span>I do understand, with each new email. I understand that the limit is 40k, and I apologize to the list for my oversight and oversize of my post. I guess it was a k over, sorry, I didn't do a word count.</span></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,;"><span><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,;">
<span>My posts were all in answer to the matey from down under's posts. Being an honourable pirate, I will try to always answer a person's request for clarification, further response or to add links.</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,;">
<span><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,;"><span> I thought we were having a spirited discussion of a subject that has dominated my readings on this listserve, attacks on fellow Italian pirates. I offered a different opinion in the spirit of inclusion.</span></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,;"><span><br></span></div><div></div><div>For sure, my posts are personal, and have my signature attached leaving no doubt of the author. They were all on topic expressing my concerns over who gets censored. I am finding more and more the person with a different point of view, is the one to get censored. Was Simon censored? I was trying to make a point, that this list should refrain from chastising a particular pirate group to the point of mega repeat, over and over, to the exclusion of much needed real news. Which I am anxious to read and favor.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If having an oversize post is a hanging offense, take me to the gallows. I will walk unassisted with my two peg legs and hold my head high. Do you understand matey? If the affirmative, then thank you for your understanding.<br>
</div><div>If having a different opinion is a hanging offense, take me to the gallows. I will walk unassisted with my two peg legs and
hold my head high. Do you understand matey? If the affirmative, then thank you for your understanding.</div><div class="yiv2048489138im"><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:18px;font-family:garamond,;">I remain sincerely yours,</span></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:18px;background-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,;"><span style="font-size:18px;font-family:garamond,;"><br></span></div>
<div style="font-size:18px;background-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,;"><span style="font-size:18px;font-style:italic;font-family:garamond,;">John Dickinson</span></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:18px;background-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,;"><span><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:18px;font-family:garamond,;">=access Since 1991 <br>
"Be the change that you want <br>to see in the world." <br>M. K. Gandhi </span><br></div><div><br></div> </div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:garamond,;"><div class="yiv2048489138hm yiv2048489138HOEnZb">
</div><div style="font-size:12pt;"><div class="yiv2048489138hm yiv2048489138HOEnZb"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Josef Ohlsson Collentine <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:josef@piratetimes.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:josef@piratetimes.net">josef@piratetimes.net</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> john dickinson <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jrdickinson@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jrdickinson@yahoo.com">jrdickinson@yahoo.com</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> Gefion <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:gefion@piratetimes.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:gefion@piratetimes.net">gefion@piratetimes.net</a>>; Daniel Ebbert <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:daniel@piratetimes.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:daniel@piratetimes.net">daniel@piratetimes.net</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Saturday, December 22, 2012 4:58 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: ppnews post from <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jrdickinson@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jrdickinson@yahoo.com">jrdickinson@yahoo.com</a> requires approval<br> </font> </div>
</div><div class="yiv2048489138im"> <br><div><div dir="ltr">Hi John,<div><br></div><div>this was another off-topic post on the mailing-list from you, caught in auto-filter this time because of the size of the forwarded post.</div><div>
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You had your warning. You're still on the list, but from now on all your posts will be moderated before let onto the list to avoid more off-topic posts. As long as you stay on the topic of Pirate Times your posts will only be slightly delayed on our internal list from now. All other posts and discussions please bring them to the PPI mail-list.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your understanding.</div><div><br></div><div>Kindly,</div><div>Josef</div></div><div><br><br><div>On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 6:49 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ppnews-owner@lists.pp-international.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:ppnews-owner@lists.pp-international.net">ppnews-owner@lists.pp-international.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the<br>
following mailing list posting:<br>
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From: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jrdickinson@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jrdickinson@yahoo.com">jrdickinson@yahoo.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] PP IT and Its Non-Democratic Organization<br>
Reason: Message body is too big: 41783 bytes with a limit of 40 KB<br>
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