<p>What if one's own party doesn't provide it?</p>
<p>I go further, where is it for the world's PP? (even when it is not existing (yet). I understand it is all very theoretical but is the PP ideology not theoretical as well?)</p>
<p>Are we turning this 'need' down reasoning 'let them compete it out' or are we going to offer it to be solved through coorperation? Namingly they (the italiens for now) are now at least discussing with eachother and proving their points to 'us'. Because their real problem is that they do not recognise eachothers problem. <br>
If the pirates believe that ultimately we all together should function as a coorperative democracy then now we have an opportunity to experiment with this IMHO.</p>
<p>mrNatural</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 1, 2013 2:30 p.m., "Mozart Palmer" <<a href="mailto:mozart.palmer@pp-international.net">mozart.palmer@pp-international.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Those parties having disputes should have their own mailing lists provided by their own parties.<div><br></div><div>And if they're using this mailing list, they should speak English at minimum.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On 2 January 2013 00:14, Anouk Neeteson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jakobsheep@gmail.com" target="_blank">jakobsheep@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p>Create a new maillist for these type of debates for which is (possibly or even obviously) a need? PP philosophy or PP anarchy or PP encounters? (just trying to be proproductive)</p>
<p>mrNatural</p><div><div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 1, 2013 1:57 p.m., "Mozart Palmer" <<a href="mailto:mozart.palmer@pp-international.net" target="_blank">mozart.palmer@pp-international.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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This is getting ridiculous. Time to unsubscribe I think. Seems like this has become an arena for petty party squabbles. Too much instability and insanity for my liking: it's becoming embarrassing to be associated with certain other parties and their members.<div>
<div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 January 2013 15:49, Moramarco <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:moramarco@email.it" target="_blank">moramarco@email.it</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Non hanno nemmeno la cortezza di stare in silenzio perchè pure ignoranti , questa è la ulteriore prova di quanto esposto e non sanno che metterò anche il resto in rete, dopo che hanno violato ogni tipo di privacy sulla mia persona e su altri...Povertà assoluta e fanno pure pena dopo le email, il fango e gli insulti precedenti pubblici...Spero che adesso sia chiaro...Buon anno a tutti<br>
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On 2013-01-01 03:40, Moramarco wrote:<br>
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Ps. dimenticavo prova area pubblica e poi mi si mette in mezzo su<br>
delle affermazioni avvenute sul Forum dove io mi sono registrato e non<br>
sono mai entrato, se avrò fatto un post di saluto è anche troppo...Ma<br>
non credo neanche...Come il tramare contro le leggi italiane e la<br>
costituzione<br>
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Ancora saluti<br>
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greetings to you Mimmo you had just export a screen shot and sent an email with all the user names<br>
out of liquid feedback in violation of the law of the privacy so maybe just to make you understand<br>
better you will riceive a letter from our lawers that get you in court.<br>
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Happy new year<br>
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Alv.<br>
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From: lilo<br>
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you are the king of the fakes<br>
blah<br>
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From: Alv<br>
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you forgot to say what you had done a falsification<br>
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From: Michele Esterno<br>
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tant auguri au frischett<br>
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Italians do it better.<br>
What a shame.<br>
How to destroy an interesting conversation about democracy in political<br>
organizations.<br>
Happy new year!<br>
Carlito<br>
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