<div dir="ltr">You may have not niticed but he killed himself just 2 years after being arrested on January, 11th 2011<div><br></div><div><b><i>"Since his arresting the early morning of January 11, 2011"</i></b></div>
<div><b><i><br></i></b></div><div>from Lessig blog post</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/40347463044/prosecutor-as-bully">http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/40347463044/prosecutor-as-bully</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>From Partido Pirata we DMed Kim Dotcom</div><div><br></div><div>"KimDotcom: Copyright enforcement just got its first dead <a href="http://t.co/lHFNfSb">http://t.co/lHFNfSb</a> you should name one of your servers with his name"</div>
<div><br></div><div>This is his reaction to the news</div><div><br></div><div>"Unbelievable. Fucking DOJ"</div><div><br></div><div style>And then posted this on Twitter</div><div style><br></div><div style><a href="http://twitter.com/KimDotcom/statuses/290083694696349696">http://twitter.com/KimDotcom/statuses/290083694696349696</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Cory Doctorow who kew him well too wrote this obituary</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html">http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div style>Lots of testimonies are coming from relevant Internet personalities</div><div style><br></div><div style>Tim O'Reilly - Editor</div><div style><br></div><div style><a href="http://twitter.com/timoreilly/statuses/290157040062566400">http://twitter.com/timoreilly/statuses/290157040062566400</a><br>
</div><div style><a href="http://twitter.com/timoreilly/statuses/290131206396313600">http://twitter.com/timoreilly/statuses/290131206396313600</a><br></div><div style><br></div><div style>Jeff Jarvis - Journalist</div><div style>
<br></div><div style><a href="http://twitter.com/jeffjarvis/statuses/290122990916616192">http://twitter.com/jeffjarvis/statuses/290122990916616192</a><br></div><div style><a href="http://twitter.com/jeffjarvis/statuses/290183617718661122">http://twitter.com/jeffjarvis/statuses/290183617718661122</a><br>
</div><div style><br></div><div style>JP Barlow - EFF</div><div style><br></div><div style><a href="http://twitter.com/JPBarlow/statuses/290031669291933697">http://twitter.com/JPBarlow/statuses/290031669291933697</a><br>
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<div style><a href="http://twitter.com/JPBarlow/statuses/290028162446929920">http://twitter.com/JPBarlow/statuses/290028162446929920</a><br></div><div style><br></div><div style>Finally we posted this</div><div style><br>
</div><div style>#Copyright enforcement war just claimed its first deadly victim <a href="http://t.co/TuxJsbYH">http://t.co/TuxJsbYH</a> RIP .@aaronsw (Aaron Swartz) #ppint #copywrong<br></div><div style><a href="http://twitter.com/partido_pirata/statuses/290142766338547712">http://twitter.com/partido_pirata/statuses/290142766338547712</a><br>
</div><div style><br></div><div style>You can follow more reactions of relevant comments on Aaron's death following my HackSociety Twitter list</div><div style><br></div><div style><a href="https://twitter.com/paco229/hacksociety2">https://twitter.com/paco229/hacksociety2</a><br>
</div><div style><br></div><div style>Redditors are compiling articles and reactions about Aaron's tragic end here </div><div style><br></div><div style><a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/16fjjm/aaron_shwartz_reddit_cofounder_rip/">http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/16fjjm/aaron_shwartz_reddit_cofounder_rip/</a><br>
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1. Re: Aaron Swartz Commits Suicide > two projects (Jelena Jovanovic)<br>
2. Re: Aaron Swartz Commits Suicide > two projects (Antonio Garcia)<br>
3. Re: Aaron Swartz Commits Suicide (Richard Stallman)<br>
4. Re: Aaron Swartz Commits Suicide > two projects<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:32:47 +0100<br>
From: Jelena Jovanovic <<a href="mailto:jelena.the.one@gmail.com" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to jelena.the.one@gmail.com" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=jelena.the.one@gmail.com', null, 'width=640,height=580,scrollbars=yes');return false" rel="noreferrer">jelena.the.one@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Aaron Swartz Commits Suicide > two<br>
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I just don't understand why people don't seek for help instead, but really.<br>
Depression is light disorder and it can be easily kept controlled.<br>
We have minister of defense here who has much much worse/ more serious<br>
diagnose, but it didn't stop him to become prime minister also! And ofc<br>
this information is still on a rumor level /though I am convinced public<br>
should know about it, sorry for off-topic/.<br>
<br>
Maybe the problem is in stigmatizing these people?<br>
<br>
Campaign is good thing. I would love to see it everywhere. Ofc people<br>
suffer but we have to use this all connected world to increase awareness<br>
that they are not alone.<br>
<br>
JJ<br>
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> suicide prevention policies<br>
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Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:42:43 +0000<br>
From: Antonio Garcia <<a href="mailto:ningunotro@hotmail.com" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to ningunotro@hotmail.com" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=ningunotro@hotmail.com', null, 'width=640,height=580,scrollbars=yes');return false" rel="noreferrer">ningunotro@hotmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Aaron Swartz Commits Suicide > two<br>
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Maybe because there is nobody to get help from...<br>
<br>
... once you get tired of not being understood by your peers... they are part of the problem, not people with a possible solution.<br>
<br>
<br>
The stigmatizing issue... if for those that stay behind. Those that commit suicide have nothing more to worry about.<br>
<br>
The only solution is being aware ourselves, and being something of a hope when some is needed.<br>
<br>
<br>
Antonio.<br>
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> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:32:47 +0100<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:jelena.the.one@gmail.com" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to jelena.the.one@gmail.com" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=jelena.the.one@gmail.com', null, 'width=640,height=580,scrollbars=yes');return false" rel="noreferrer">jelena.the.one@gmail.com</a><br>
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> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Aaron Swartz Commits Suicide > two projects<br>
><br>
> I just don't understand why people don't seek for help instead, but<br>
> really. Depression is light disorder and it can be easily kept<br>
> controlled.<br>
> We have minister of defense here who has much much worse/ more serious<br>
> diagnose, but it didn't stop him to become prime minister also! And ofc<br>
> this information is still on a rumor level /though I am convinced<br>
> public should know about it, sorry for off-topic/.<br>
><br>
> Maybe the problem is in stigmatizing these people?<br>
><br>
> Campaign is good thing. I would love to see it everywhere. Ofc people<br>
> suffer but we have to use this all connected world to increase<br>
> awareness that they are not alone.<br>
><br>
> JJ<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Patrick Maechler v/o Valio<br>
> <<a href="mailto:pirate@valio.ch" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to pirate@valio.ch" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=pirate@valio.ch', null, 'width=640,height=580,scrollbars=yes');return false" rel="noreferrer">pirate@valio.ch</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:pirate@valio.ch" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to pirate@valio.ch" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=pirate@valio.ch', null, 'width=640,height=580,scrollbars=yes');return false" rel="noreferrer">pirate@valio.ch</a>>> wrote:<br>
> suicide prevention policies<br>
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Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:02:59 -0500<br>
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I didn't know Swartz personally, so I have no knowledge about the<br>
extent to which he was depressed, independent of his legal situation.<br>
But apparently that alone wasn't enough to kill him.<br>
<br>
Having a tendency depression does not mean one is impervious to<br>
reality. The reality of the US attack against him surely contributed<br>
to how depressed he felt.<br>
<br>
So we have reason to think the US government drove Swartz to it. This<br>
was not murder; the US did not aim to kill him, only to ruin his life<br>
on behalf of the copyright industry. But it probably did kill him.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Dr Richard Stallman<br>
President, Free Software Foundation<br>
51 Franklin St<br>
Boston MA 02110<br>
USA<br>
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Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.<br>
Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call<br>
<br>
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Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:05:16 +0100<br>
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Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Aaron Swartz Commits Suicide > two<br>
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I think this is not purely related to the internet, but to a certain type<br>
of personality. Just look at history and see how many very talented people<br>
committed suicide. Its higher than average.<br>
<br>
I think antonio hits it spot on. These people are often not understood by<br>
society, which results in social isolation. And many people can not handle<br>
social isolation. This is a pattern not just related to the internet or the<br>
last years.<br>
<br>
- robske/kristi<br>
Op 12 jan. 2013 19:42 schreef "Antonio Garcia" <<a href="mailto:ningunotro@hotmail.com" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to ningunotro@hotmail.com" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=ningunotro@hotmail.com', null, 'width=640,height=580,scrollbars=yes');return false" rel="noreferrer">ningunotro@hotmail.com</a>> het<br>
volgende:<br>
<br>
> Maybe because there is nobody to get help from...<br>
><br>
> ... once you get tired of not being understood by your peers... they are<br>
> part of the problem, not people with a possible solution.<br>
><br>
><br>
> The stigmatizing issue... if for those that stay behind. Those that commit<br>
> suicide have nothing more to worry about.<br>
><br>
> The only solution is being aware ourselves, and being something of a hope<br>
> when some is needed.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Antonio.<br>
><br>
> ________________________________<br>
> > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:32:47 +0100<br>
> > From: <a href="mailto:jelena.the.one@gmail.com" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to jelena.the.one@gmail.com" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=jelena.the.one@gmail.com', null, 'width=640,height=580,scrollbars=yes');return false" rel="noreferrer">jelena.the.one@gmail.com</a><br>
> > To: <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net', null, 'width=640,height=580,scrollbars=yes');return false" rel="noreferrer">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>
> > Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Aaron Swartz Commits Suicide > two projects<br>
> ><br>
> > I just don't understand why people don't seek for help instead, but<br>
> > really. Depression is light disorder and it can be easily kept<br>
> > controlled.<br>
> > We have minister of defense here who has much much worse/ more serious<br>
> > diagnose, but it didn't stop him to become prime minister also! And ofc<br>
> > this information is still on a rumor level /though I am convinced<br>
> > public should know about it, sorry for off-topic/.<br>
> ><br>
> > Maybe the problem is in stigmatizing these people?<br>
> ><br>
> > Campaign is good thing. I would love to see it everywhere. Ofc people<br>
> > suffer but we have to use this all connected world to increase<br>
> > awareness that they are not alone.<br>
> ><br>
> > JJ<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Patrick Maechler v/o Valio<br>
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Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 22:39:19 +0100<br>
From: Dario <<a href="mailto:i@dario.im" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to i@dario.im" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=i@dario.im', null, 'width=640,height=580,scrollbars=yes');return false" rel="noreferrer">i@dario.im</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Aaron Swartz Commits Suicide > two<br>
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>From Lessig obituary:<br>
<a href="http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/40347463044/prosecutor-as-bully" target="_blank">http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/40347463044/prosecutor-as-bully</a><div style="width:16px;height:16px;display:inline-block"> </div><br>
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*Please don?t pathologize this story.*<br>
><br>
> No doubt it is a certain crazy that brings a person as loved as Aaron was<br>
> loved (and he was surrounded in NY by people who loved him) to do what<br>
> Aaron did. It angers me that he did what he did. But if we?re going to<br>
> learn from this, we can?t let slide what brought him here.<br>
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<br>
Sincerely, this doesn't look as a "no one understand me" suicide. I ask<br>
everybody to skip theorizing and to do something useful as Patrick started.<br>
<br>
Patrick, if I can help, count me on board. I can setup a WP or a static<br>
site for <a href="http://live-long-and-prosper.org" target="_blank">http://live-long-and-prosper.org</a><div style="width:16px;height:16px;display:inline-block"> </div> in my personal server or<br>
wherever, if you want.<br>
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2013/1/12 roberto aka robske <<a href="mailto:evilteddyxl@gmail.com" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to evilteddyxl@gmail.com" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=evilteddyxl@gmail.com', null, 'width=640,height=580,scrollbars=yes');return false" rel="noreferrer">evilteddyxl@gmail.com</a>><br>
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> I think this is not purely related to the internet, but to a certain type<br>
> of personality. Just look at history and see how many very talented people<br>
> committed suicide. Its higher than average.<br>
><br>
> I think antonio hits it spot on. These people are often not understood by<br>
> society, which results in social isolation. And many people can not handle<br>
> social isolation. This is a pattern not just related to the internet or the<br>
> last years.<br>
><br>
> - robske/kristi<br>
> Op 12 jan. 2013 19:42 schreef "Antonio Garcia" <<a href="mailto:ningunotro@hotmail.com" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to ningunotro@hotmail.com" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=ningunotro@hotmail.com', null, 'width=640,height=580,scrollbars=yes');return false" rel="noreferrer">ningunotro@hotmail.com</a>><br>
> het volgende:<br>
><br>
> Maybe because there is nobody to get help from...<br>
>><br>
>> ... once you get tired of not being understood by your peers... they are<br>
>> part of the problem, not people with a possible solution.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> The stigmatizing issue... if for those that stay behind. Those that<br>
>> commit suicide have nothing more to worry about.<br>
>><br>
>> The only solution is being aware ourselves, and being something of a hope<br>
>> when some is needed.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Antonio.<br>
>><br>
>> ________________________________<br>
>> > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:32:47 +0100<br>
>> > From: <a href="mailto:jelena.the.one@gmail.com" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to jelena.the.one@gmail.com" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=jelena.the.one@gmail.com', null, 'width=640,height=580,scrollbars=yes');return false" rel="noreferrer">jelena.the.one@gmail.com</a><br>
>> > To: <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net', null, 'width=640,height=580,scrollbars=yes');return false" rel="noreferrer">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>
>> > Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Aaron Swartz Commits Suicide > two<br>
>> projects<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I just don't understand why people don't seek for help instead, but<br>
>> > really. Depression is light disorder and it can be easily kept<br>
>> > controlled.<br>
>> > We have minister of defense here who has much much worse/ more serious<br>
>> > diagnose, but it didn't stop him to become prime minister also! And ofc<br>
>> > this information is still on a rumor level /though I am convinced<br>
>> > public should know about it, sorry for off-topic/.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Maybe the problem is in stigmatizing these people?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Campaign is good thing. I would love to see it everywhere. Ofc people<br>
>> > suffer but we have to use this all connected world to increase<br>
>> > awareness that they are not alone.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > JJ<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Patrick Maechler v/o Valio<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:pirate@valio.ch" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to pirate@valio.ch" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=pirate@valio.ch', null, 'width=640,height=580,scrollbars=yes');return false" rel="noreferrer">pirate@valio.ch</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:pirate@valio.ch" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to pirate@valio.ch" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=pirate@valio.ch', null, 'width=640,height=580,scrollbars=yes');return false" rel="noreferrer">pirate@valio.ch</a>>> wrote:<br>
>> > suicide prevention policies<br>
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