On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Thomas Bruderer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thomas.bruderer@piratenpartei.ch" target="_blank">thomas.bruderer@piratenpartei.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hello,<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Ahoy!</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Since a few weeks we get Emails which are pointing to a LQFB
instance and there are Issues for the next General Assembly.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Actually those are all the ones we didn't have time to vote at the previous GA, I hoped we could use the entire year to discuss them into a consensus before we get to do the final vote on them at the next GA instead of leaving that discussion to the 2 days of GA and once again waste them on last minute changes and counter motions to change this or that word and whatnot.</div>
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<a href="https://democracy.no-ip.org/unit/show/2.html" target="_blank">https://democracy.no-ip.org/unit/show/2.html</a></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Ops, it should already be <a href="https://lqfb.pp-international.net">https://lqfb.pp-international.net</a> now, forgot to update the URL somewhere, I fixed it now. </div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">* Who is running these?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Me :)</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">* Is this something official?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>
No, you can refer to my first <a href="http://lists.pp-international.net/private/pp-leaders/2012-May/000208.html">message</a> about it. <i>"<span style="white-space:pre-wrap">...and knowing that <b>nothing was officially decided</b> there </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">about fixing it, I nonetheless promised to set up a Liquid Feedback </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">system for the Ordinary Members of PPI..."</span></i></div>
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* What is the purpose of these?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Referring again to my first <a href="http://lists.pp-international.net/private/pp-leaders/2012-May/000208.html">message</a> about it, and continuing the previous quote<i> "...<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> so that their opinions and </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">decisions can flow to the board using me as a vessel and hopefully </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">inspiring the others, so that we can abide by the PPI goals as stated in </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">the statutes: "II. Goals,,(1) The goals of the association are:,a) to </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">act according to the major interests and goals of its Members,"</span></i></div>
<div><i><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">It can also serve as a tool for preparing, discussing and have </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">preliminary non-binding votes on statutes amendments and other motions </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">so that when we reach the next GA all as been agreed upon and we just </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">vote them and not waste all our time with last minute motions and </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">counter motions written on the knee to change a paragraph or a word, or </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">to decide if we can actually do that change, or to decide if we can even </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">decide, or to decide on how we decide, etc ad nauseam..."</span></i></div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">* Who should be on that platform?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>
<div>At least the ordinary members of PPI, for correct quorum calculations in the "Ordinary Members" unit</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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* What should the result be?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">The results should be <i>"preliminary non-binding votes"</i> for the PPI members or board but binding to me as a board member like I promised. So far no ordinary member used it to create initiatives on any issue that I could bring to the board and request an official vote on which my own vote would be the result of the LQFB vote on that issue.</span></div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">They get a bit annoying especially since the email address it is
sent to is the general purpose email address for the PP-CH.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I sent several emails (on 14-May-2012, 05-June-2012 and 14-June-2012) to you international coordinator (at least the one PPI had knowledge of at the time) in order to get a proper official email registered, none of which got a reply, by the time of 14-June-2012 I sent it also to the general purpose email hoping that at least someone would read that one, and by the 19-June-2012, like a proper pirate, I just xangaied that email into the boat for correct quorum calculations, hoping that someday someone would read one of the automatic notification emails and eventually replied, seems that day has come...Welcome aboard! Arrr!!! ;)</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Can we opt-out or AT LEAST change the mail address?<br></div></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>Sure! I'll forward the original email again in case you don't find it in your email archive, that way you can change whatever you like on that account, you can also opt-out of the notifications, in case you are not interested in receiving them. That way you can just ignore it completely but I will nonetheless keep the inactive account there for correct quorum calculations.</div>
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Regards,<br>
Thomas </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Pirate regards,</div><div>Nuno</div></div>