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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Brains. Beppe Grillo has got brains ;) .<br><br>I was going to say something about a certain master strategy... but I could not find the right spelling on their website (a pleasant surprise I was not expecting anymore). Still, a certain Rick Falkvinge must be dreaming about Beppe Grillo's present strategical situation.<br><br>Some pirates, like Italian and Dutch ones... apparently lack brains. Before you all have a go at my throat... I find them also sorely missing among my brethren in the Iberian Peninsula.<br><br><br>Antonio.<br><br><hr>From: i@dario.im<br>Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 23:15:30 +0100<br>To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Transparency in the party<br><br><div dir=ltr><br><div class=ecxgmail_extra><div class=ecxgmail_quote>2013/2/27 <span dir=ltr><<a href="mailto:thijs.markus@piratenpartij.nl" target=_blank>thijs.markus@piratenpartij.nl</a>></span><br><blockquote class=ecxgmail_quote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;">
So do I, oh so do I.<br>
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Antonio Garcia schreef op 27.02.2013 15:11:<br>
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I could not agree more.<br>
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But then, I am eagerly awaiting a Beppe Grillo in the Netherlands<br>
also.<br>
<br></div></div></blockquote></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I feel curious. What is the real difference between M5S and PP, the one that makes you desire to have your own Beppe Grillo?</div><div><br></div><div>
I don't disagree with making a politician public and accountable in front of society because he is part of the public system but I don't think M5S is 100% pirate, it just looks alike. Using LQFB or fighting corruption doesn't make it pirate. From what I read [0], M5S has a strong (but incomplete) position in economics, mainly interventionist (far away from usual socialdemocracy) and many other things which are "so so" in freedom terms.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I see too some points that are part of Pirate core ideology but I keep thinking that it doesn't make it a pirate-compatible movement.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't mean that we must be "pure and clean". Their programme isn't particularly better than any of PP-CAT programmes. The main difference must be the number of persons participating on its redaction, that's why it is a bit broader (although having only 13 pages, which is fine) but also scatterer.</div>
<div><br></div><div>What I really mean is that they could make it better, more of a framework than a random list of specific actions/promises that just sound right/good to a lot of people. I must point too that every country is pretty different in their political dynamics so I think it is less probable to see these results on other countries.</div>
<div><br></div><div>[0] <a href="https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/materiali-bg/Programma-Movimento-5-Stelle.pdf" target=_blank>https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/materiali-bg/Programma-Movimento-5-Stelle.pdf</a></div></div>
<div><br></div>-- <br><div>Dario Castañé</div><div><a href="http://www.dario.im" target=_blank>http://www.dario.im</a> | <a href="http://twitter.com/im_dario" target=_blank>http://twitter.com/im_dario</a></div>
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