<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>I can't see any way for remote delegates to participate on the website. This really needs to be fixed.<br></div>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Local Pirates found
this article the other day:</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm"><a href="http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article114793514/Piratenparteien-wachsen-zu-globalem-Phaenomen.html" target="_blank">http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article114793514/Piratenparteien-wachsen-zu-globalem-Phaenomen.html</a></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Pretty good overview of
the International, until we got to the last paragraph which states
(from Google translate, minorly cleaned up):</p>
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<font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3"><span style="font-style:normal"><span style="font-weight:normal">To
discuss all of this, the PPI has all pirate parties charged world to
a meeting in April to Kazan in western Russia. It is the fourth such
meeting since 2007. "We are going, in solidarity," says
Engels. "The Turks have already committed. The pirates in
Australia and Brazil are still hesitating. They complain that
the meeting takes place so far away," says Engels. But that was
just the case of global movements.</span></span></font></font><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"> "We want to network in Kazan and share experiences," he says. </font></font><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3"><span style="font-style:normal"><span style="font-weight:normal">An
agenda is not yet there. But in one there was agreement: "</span></span></font></font></font><a href="http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article111488486/Den-Piraten-ist-Lebensgefuehl-wichtiger-als-Themen.html" name="13dc782231c2aec9_13dc777d6937f43a__art_link_" target="_blank"><font color="#000000"><span style="text-decoration:none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3"><span style="font-style:normal"><span style="font-weight:normal">We
are an international movement</span></span></font></font></span></font></a><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3"><span style="font-style:normal"><span style="font-weight:normal">."</span></span></font></font></font></p>
<br>We have obvious angered Gregory Engels. As should be clear from previous discussions we don't have any confidence in the current Board as they still have yet to reply to our protest letter, even after it being discussed on the list.<br>
<br>PPAU cannot afford to send a member to Russia, we are only just
registered and about to face our first National election in September,
if not earlier (the government is in disarray). It will cost us $2,000 $AUD per Senate candidate to run for the election and $1,000 for each local member, which we cannot realistically afford. We have a budget under $20,000 total and there is no way we could justify spending over $1,000 on sending one member on a junket. <br>
<br>We are a high income developed country and we cannot justify such a waste of money to our members, it would be completely irresponsible for someone from Brazil to be sent to Russia as the average income is much lower there. This sort of public attack is just vindictive and uncalled for.<br>
<br></div>As Aza said:<br><br>Agreed, this is the PIRATE PARTY the idea is to give us direct democracy
over the net, if someone doesn't think this is feasible or doesn't
agree with this then they are in the WRONG PARTY!!!<br><br></div>How is it possible after the last 2 GAs have been farcical, that this years seems destined to fail in exactly the same way? There will be an exodus from the International if this is not urgently addressed. IE before or during the GA. <br>
<br>We were founded on the basis that the Internet gives everyone a fundamentally new way to share and communicate. Yet the very organisation that is meant to foster this internationally refuses to provide a way for delegates to participate remotely, or if it is providing a way for remote delegates to participate, it is failing to communicate this to the participants. It is a failure waiting to happen that needs to be addressed urgently.<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom:0cm;border:medium none;padding:0cm;line-height:0.58cm">We also urge members to vote against the payment model for PPI. We see no
value in handing over any of our limited funds so Board members can enjoy junkets on our
dollar. We have the technology at our fingertips to communicate
globally for virtually nothing. I can't logically see how PPI would
require any more than servers which can be loaned by various national
Parties or if its own servers were really required how it would cost
more that a few hundred dollars total. We are reluctant to hand over
money to an organisation that has effectively excluded us from
participating in the last 2 GAs and aren't providing any reassurance
that this year will be any different.</p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;border:medium none;padding:0cm;line-height:0.58cm">Regards</p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;border:medium none;padding:0cm;line-height:0.58cm">Simon Frew</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm;border:medium none;padding:0cm;line-height:0.58cm">Deputy President</p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;border:medium none;padding:0cm;line-height:0.58cm">Pirate Party Australia<br></p>
<br><br><div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Aza <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rata_0071@hotmail.com" target="_blank">rata_0071@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">2013/3/19 Aleksandar Blagojevic <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com" target="_blank">piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<div>Any news on remote participation? <br>
I just applied with "regular" registration form. Which, in my
opinion, should be the only one. <br></div></div></blockquote></div><div>Is this right? i would like to participate remotely too<br></div><div class="im"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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To make my point clear: remote participation should be the primary
mode of PPI GA collaboration. Several thousands of years of live
meeting practice proved that humans are too much prehistoric, too
much personal when it comes to the point of sacrificing themselves
in defending an idea. We have what we need in order to win this
pirate battle. PPI GA should be held online, several weeks in
duration, full concencus in practice, full global reach with high
efficiency demonstrated to the global public.<br>
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I repeat, it's never too late for the right thing. Kazan should be
yet another node of PPI GA, like your room, or your PP's HQ.<br></div></div></blockquote><div> <br></div></div><div>Agreed, this is the PIRATE PARTY the idea is to give us direct democracy over the net, if someone doesn't think this is feasible or doesn't agree with this then they are in the WRONG PARTY!!!<br>
<br></div><div>regards<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>aza<br></div></font></span></div></div></div>
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