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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Imagine the "EPICness" if PP Croatia
take the criticism as a direction for improvement.<br>
That would be something previously unseen in politics, ever.<br>
<br>
Imagine the positive gain with such demonstration of openness.
Shitload of votes. Real political power. <br>
<br>
*you sound like an incapable mother over the spoiled child in
public. unable to control the rage of hers not-loved-enough child.
-- "Let him be. Leg him grow up, let him grow up and beat other
grown up people if he wants. I love him just because it is my
child no matter how wrong it is, and I will tell him later when it
grows up.".<br>
(is it already too late? I think not. it is never too late for
good stuff.)<br>
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On 04/08/2013 04:29 PM, Thrasos Nerantzis wrote:<br>
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Aleksander,
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<div>You are being unnecessarily cruel for a brother party during
their election campaign.</div>
<div>If you want to indeed produce constructive criticism, you can
always write a report/article after the elections and baring the
whole picture.</div>
<div>What you are doing now is demoralizing in a time where all of
us should be empowering our pirate comrades in Croatia. </div>
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<div><b>Go Croatian Pirates, May the Force be with you.</b></div>
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<div>With Fraternal Pirate Balkan Regards</div>
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<div>Thrasos</div>
<div>--Cyprus<br>
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<div>On Apr 8, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Aleksandar Blagojevic <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com">piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com</a>>
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On 04/06/2013 11:06 AM, Dario wrote:<br>
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<div>Hello All, </div>
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<div>just to bring the pirate public the stand of
Croatian Pirate Party.</div>
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<div>As some of you know we are in the middle of
campaign for EU election.</div>
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<div>In between other pirate stuff ,we do promote
seculars stands in our program.</div>
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<div>The post on Facebook invited people to paint a
pirate party Croatia symbol</div>
<div>on the egg. The best egg, with the best painting
was send to Croatian</div>
<div>government.</div>
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<div>This could be more seen as a protest and sarcasm<span
class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>then
anything else.</div>
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This is simply ridiculous.<br>
The cherry on top of this ridiculousness is the
egg-present for your government. I think this is the
exact scale of your "compromise" you as a party are
willing to make in order to "win" this elections. <br>
<br>
This is about integrity and capacity - non of which you
have in this campaign. It is sad that you are light
years away from resonating with Croatia's intellectual
progressives also, in fact that respectable community
thinks that you are just a joke. Pirate Party of Croatia
is yet another political party, no radical ideas, no
pirate ideals at practice, not opposing the government,
nothing new. Just hollow pirate remixing and waving with
the mere difference in (pirate) name to "oppose" current
political parties. <br>
<br>
That makes you a perfect tool-political party, also
acceptable by/for current establishment. PPHR will be
used to do the job already set by current Croatian
parties at power.<br>
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<div>Mr. Aleksander, should quote as a whole, so that
the reader gets the complete</div>
<div>picture. Taking something out of the context is
not a good move when you </div>
<div>are accusing someone.</div>
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<div>Furthermore, the ban on our FB page was issued to
him by one of our administrators, </div>
<div>following the strict rules ,any question<span
class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>in
that regard, should be addressed to our</div>
<div>Court of Honor and not the the general public of
PPI.</div>
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<div>Mr. Aleksander is welcome to do so, by sending a
formal complaint.</div>
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This level of insanity in the middle of an important
election campaign is something I have never seen before.<br>
- "Strict rules"?? "issued by one of your
administrators" ??<br>
- "to address to Court of Honor" in order to ask/inform
myself about the block on obscure facebook software
surveillance machinery?<br>
Because I wrote "Pirate Christian Party", commenting
your public Easter egg religious government sucking-up??<br>
<br>
If Croatian government happen to have any brain cells in
their heads, they should override the Croatian
constitution and all your democratic processes you might
have and include you and your "strict comrades" in the
parliament right now. <br>
<br>
/Aleksandar Blagojević<br>
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<div>With kind regards,</div>
<div>Dario Vidovic</div>
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<div>Pirate party Croatia, </div>
<div>International coordination. </div>
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<div>On Apr 5, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Aleksandar
Blagojevic wrote:</div>
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PM, Nicolás Reynolds wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Aleksandar Blagojevic <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com"><piratska.partija.srbije@gmail.com></a> writes:
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<pre wrap="">Am I the only one who is sick of dogmatism election propaganda within
some Pirate parties?
Better way to handle any religious date/event/"value" is to just ignore
it. FFS <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ffs"><http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ffs></a>, we live in
21st century and our lives are irreversibly dependent on "heretic"
knowledge such is electric current, quantum physics, Internet, satellites...
Using religion (and religious values) to achieve any political goal is
dangerous, irresponsible and, as we all know, can be very destructive.
Imagine the shame when future generations look back and see what some
"pirates" did in order to compensate their weak mental capacity and
frustrations.
Not good.
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<pre wrap="">any example? at <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://pp.ar/">pp.ar</a> we've discussed promoting apostasy but we haven't
reach consensus for that, though we agreed on promoting laicism.</pre>
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This big thread is Pirate Party Croatia stance
on this year's catholic Easter: <a
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href="https://www.facebook.com/pirati.hr/posts/495491173831886">https://www.facebook.com/pirati.hr/posts/495491173831886</a><br>
I see their stance trough this act: I was banned
because of commenting the Easter post with
"Christian Pirate Party" written with
serbo-croatian slang, (that comment was
immediately removed). Other people commented
also, but pphr repetitively lacks with sane
response. <br>
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In my opinion, good thing to do is of course
oppose any form of dogmatism and/or, in this
case, to condemn this religious-political
manipulation.<br>
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Another example, not that much in focus like
PPHR and their local/EU election run.<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=519220741452945&set=a.256265901081765.60540.256264037748618&type=1&theater">https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=519220741452945&set=a.256265901081765.60540.256264037748618&type=1&theater</a>
(Kalózpárt's photos · Kalózpárt's Page)<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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