<div dir="ltr">It seems that the issue finally begins to be taken seriously. Has only taken, like, 3 years. For a privacy-minded movement like ours, that's just great!^^ </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Patrick Godschalk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:patrick.godschalk@piratenpartij.nl" target="_blank">patrick.godschalk@piratenpartij.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im"> Because there is no fee, I believe :-D<br>
<br>
</div>"If a product is free, then the users are the product." You can set up<br>
a decent mail server for less than 5 euro's/dollars/whatever a month and<br>
still run other stuff. If the fee is truly the reason, then I find it<br>
disgusting that the PPI considers the privacy of all people that e-mail<br>
to them worth less than 5/month.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
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I hve been wondering the same thing ever since I got my @<br>
<a href="http://pp-international.net" target="_blank">pp-international.net</a> mail account, and I believe the answer was<br>
"because it's convenient" (which it is). Our Privacy officer was<br>
not very amused about that fact, either. However, as the strong<br>
recommendation is to send any sensitive data with PGP encryption<br>
anyway it's not that critical.<br>
<br>
</div>Yeah, the whole convenience argument holds so much weight. Hold on, let<br>
me put all 2.000 members of the PPNL on Google Docs, because it's more<br>
convenient than setting up a decent system. (This is a joke.)<br>
<br>
I'm an avid PGP user but one of the few. Most people haven't even heard<br>
of PGP let alone use it (or be capable enough to set it up by<br>
themselves). If our collective point of view is now "meh, users should<br>
create their own privacy" then why even bother having a Pirate Party?<br>
Or any political party at all? You can relativise everything to death<br>
this way.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
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Which made me think...this list is public anyway and google bots<br>
and humans can read all it`s content. I wouldn`t worry too much.<br>
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</div>There non-public lists and I've been keeping the emails I receive<br>
through those lists (and my list pw) anally secure. For nothing, it<br>
seems.<br>
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Anyways, I'm (obviously) quite pissed about this. Not because of my own<br>
privacy, because as said above, I personally use GnuPG anyway. However,<br>
it either shows that the PPI board is completely out of touch with the<br>
core values of Pirate Parties - privacy being one of them - , or they<br>
still remember but didn't care, which blatant disregard for other<br>
people's privacy. I find both of those equally disgusting.<br>
<br>
~ Argure<br>
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