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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Yes, definitely, I'd better stop this :( .<br><br><br>Antonio.<br><br><br><br><div>> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:10:33 +0200<br>> From: zzbbyy@gmail.com<br>> To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Minutes of PPI GA 2013<br>> <br>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Antonio Garcia <ningunotro@hotmail.com> wrote:<br>> > How conveniently formulated to be populistic and draw adhesion to your ad<br>> > hominem argument :( .<br>> ><br>> > "Voting on them", as already said, refers to the whole election procedure as<br>> > one single activity to participate in. The count of all the member parties<br>> > participating at that single place and moment as had been conveniently<br>> > announced to all that the election would take place (a for too many far and<br>> > inaccessible Kazan, with a shitty last-minute effort to save it from<br>> > disaster by the unannounced and ad-hoc organising of a very improvised<br>> > remote hub in Brussels where finally more than half of all delegates shared<br>> > a still to be improvised and untested remote connection that failed<br>> > miserably to provide the minimum comfort necessary) is 16, as evidenced<br>> > counting the columns in the published minutes.<br>> ><br>> > Thus, the votes needed to obtain +50% approval, standard votes or however<br>> > anyone wants to name them is... not less than 9.<br>> ><br>> > That is why the results given in the minutes are what they are, with no one<br>> > obtaining less than 9 votes declared elected.<br>> ><br>> > 16 delegates were present or represented at the time of voting, and<br>> > abstentions, no matter what interpretation you may wish to dream of them...<br>> > do not count.<br>> <br>> And if they did count - how would you count them? I don't see any<br>> reasonable interpretation other then if abstentions count - then they<br>> count in the total number of votest (i.e. in the number 16 above) -<br>> because obviously they cannot count as YES votes and they cannot count<br>> as NO votes.<br>> ...<br>> ><br>> > But of course, if logic and ethic may be damned when inconvenient...<br>> <br>> Please stop this - we all now know that you think that everybody that<br>> does not agree with you is from kindergarden - OK - I can accept that<br>> this is your view - but please spare us from repeating this over and<br>> over.<br>> <br>> <br>> --<br>> Zbigniew Lukasiak<br>> http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/<br>> http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/<br>> ____________________________________________________<br>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br></div> </div></body>
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