<p>Hi Frederic,<br>
answered inline.</p>
<p>On Jun 17, 2013 8:33 AM, "Frédéric JOUVIN" <<a href="mailto:frederic.jouvin@gmail.com">frederic.jouvin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hi Antonio.<br>
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> I am here to bring you my full support, from my PP FR personnal disaster experience.<br>
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> I loved particularily loved one of your declarations :<br>
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> "PPI is becoming another damn USA governmentlike corporate entity, counting on all the children to unwittingly make up the big controlled mass."<br>
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> I've read some of your emails, and mostly agree with all what you are stating.<br>
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<p>I hope you have read I support him from the very beginning although I disagree with some of the language used or personal attacks (even when relevant) </p>
<p>> Regarding the most important problems I saw in France at PP FR is that they are good at :<br>
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> - Spending all their energy and time in doing things that will not change the future at all, not even help spreading our voice and values. Indeed, every time somebody wants to build a project that could have an impact on something, this guy is charged by a clearly "nasayer" identified group that will pull it out of the party.<br>
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<p>People leave too often too soon, there are mostly also ego-problems here !<br>
If it were up to me I would start a commitee (equipe) of Opposition /inside/ the PP-FR. I did propose it but it is still (too) difficult for most pirates to function really 'outside the box'.</p>
<p>> - Too much infiltrations from some governement agencies into the party itself, so much that real cypherpunks and hacktivists are clearly adviced not to go to the PP FR if they do not want to get into serious troubles.<br>
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<p>This will always happen, that is why it is called secret service.<br>
You run away, they follow when again a critical mass is reached.</p>
<p>> - They clearly did all what they could to in the end not support bradley manning, assange, etc. They hardly fake their support to the cypherpunk values and goals. They never want to really support any true hacktivists event. They don't like the Anon familly and so on. I had to fight like nobody could believe about bradley manning.<br>
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<p>Here is a problem of priorities, what is more important, the internal cohesion or the public exposure.<br>
In my view there is a clear problem on how an organisation can / should function 'organicly'.<br>
I put it like this, the bureaucratic structure is rigid like the bones (sceleton) and gives strength and rigid trust (the internal rules).<br>
The workgroups (equipes) are like the flesh around the bones in contact with the external world and yes, actually doing 'the job'. But the PP is a /political/ structure, NOT an action/protest association. Here I notice a misunderstanding / confusion on your side IMO.</p>
<p>> - They don't want to talk about philosophy and values of the cypherpunks. <br>
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<p>I hope I am not included in this 'vision'. If there is one thing people accuse me of, it are my philosophies and ethics that makes me unpopulair with some pirates !</p>
<p>> To me, they defend the current system and statut quo, and they don't give a fuck about cypherpunks and crypto-anarchists values and revolution.<br>
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> And yes, to me, it's leading to nowhere.<br>
> They are here just to make people loose their time.<br>
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<p>Life is the art of losing time, how one loses it is a matter of personal opinion. 'loosing time' is also called 'learning from mistakes' or simply karma. Lower your expectations on your fellow men. Some of us are further ahead then others. What is obvious for you is not neccesary obvious for others. Deal with it.</p>
<p>> Of course, they are some real and honnest pirates in this party, but it's like they have lost influence, and power, and they can't spread the good words and love in this party any longer.<br>
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<p>Call me a dreamer, "Imagine"- John Lennon.</p>
<p>Do what you feel and think is the best to do, I like you and your opinion.</p>
<p>Have a nice day,<br>
Anouk</p>