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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Do not waste your precious resources on something that improductive my friend, you have understood nothing.<br><br><br><div>> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 23:21:22 +0200<br>> From: davidd@piratenpartij.nl<br>> To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] I had this dream once...<br>> <br>> <br>> For people like you i have organised a special party.<br>> <br>> It's called the "bitter" party. only bitter people are allowed.<br>> <br>> We will party with coffee that has gone cold, black chocolate, brussels <br>> sprouts and chicory (raw).<br>> <br>> people that still have a glimmer of hope left can go to Valio's party <br>> instead. only embittered people are welcome at my party.<br>> <br>> Cheers.<br>> <br>> Antonio Garcia schreef op 29.06.2013 23:00:<br>> > Brussels/Kazan did everything possible to kill that dream, as it <br>> > can't<br>> > be built on lies.<br>> ><br>> > Lies do not marry emotions all that well.<br>> ><br>> > Antonio.<br>> ><br>> >> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:37:43 +0200<br>> >> From: pirate@valio.ch<br>> >> To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> >> Subject: [pp.int.general] I had this dream once...<br>> >><br>> >> ...of pirate woodstock<br>> >><br>> >> a festival...<br>> >> ...whose infrastructure is crowdfounded<br>> >> ...where all financial requirements are openly visibly for everyone<br>> >> ...where there is no clear line inbetween musicians and visitors,<br>> > but<br>> >> where everyone shall bring their cc0-ed [0] music, share it over<br>> >> public wifi, remix with other and publish it<br>> >> ...where everyone gets the chance by a random number generator to<br>> >> promote their music (or art) in a way that ze finds suitable (pirate<br>> ><br>> >> radio, stage w/ streaming, remixed video, ...) and gets rewarded by<br>> > a<br>> >> Flattr-like-mechanism<br>> >> ...which does not take place in a single country, but several; none<br>> >> (or at least: not all) centrally organized if possible; by applying<br>> > to<br>> >> the rules stated above, you get on the stream channels of others and<br>> ><br>> >> are allowed to call yourself part of the event<br>> >> ...that is as pirate as possible without getting way to illegal<br>> >><br>> >> because<br>> >> ...we don't need huge corporations to organize huge festivals<br>> >> ...we don't need intermediaries that take profits in an amount that<br>> > is<br>> >> hardly eligible<br>> >> ...we don't need anyone to tell who is worthy and who isn't<br>> > depending<br>> >> on current mainstream traits, which are nothing but remixes as all<br>> > art<br>> >> [1] without someone else playing a similar piece of music [2]<br>> >> ...we want a world where you get a chance as an artist and are not<br>> >> constantly told that your income problem is primary piracy (instead<br>> > of<br>> >> obscurity [3]), are often exploited (even if you're on the chart<br>> > list<br>> >> [4]) and are told you are producing "content" [5]<br>> >> ...we want a world that is united in the cyberspace [6] and one is<br>> > not<br>> >> intended to be excluded by economical means<br>> >> ...we need a counterculture instead of just reacting to news and<br>> >> speaking about how we want the world<br>> >><br>> >> Yes, I know this is not politics, but activism.<br>> >> Yes, I know there are initiatives at a small level, which are hardly<br>> > noticed.<br>> >> Yes, I know this is probably beyond our possibilities and you'll<br>> > call<br>> >> me an utopian fool.<br>> >><br>> >> But if we are to follow the way down, I'm afraid we loose the fun.<br>> >> The fun that is necessary to bear with politics, not to forget why<br>> > we<br>> >> are here [7] and not getting just another movement that becomes<br>> >> crusted very soon.<br>> >><br>> >> -pat<br>> >><br>> >> [0] Creative Commons - CC0 license<br>> >> http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/<br>> >> [1] Ferguson - Everything is a remix http://everythingisaremix.info/<br>> >> [2] The Axis of Awesome - 4 Chords<br>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQ<br>> >> [3] Doctorow - the problem isn't piracy. the problem is obscurity.<br>> >><br>> > <br>> > http://www.write4kids.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/doctorow.pdf<br>> >> [4] Love - Courtney Love does the math<br>> > http://www.salon.com/2000/06/14/love_7/<br>> >> [5] Stallman - Words to avoid - Content<br>> >> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Content<br>> >> [6] Barlow - A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace<br>> >> https://projects.eff.org/~barlow/Declaration-Final.html<br>> >> [7] Falkvinge - why are you here?<br>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCbRX1YEqrs<br>> >><br>> >> ____________________________________________________<br>> >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> >> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br>> <br>> -- <br>> Met vriendelijke groeten,<br>> David van Deijk.<br>> Kandidaat Tweede Kamer 2012,<br>> Ledenraadslid 2013-<br>> Piratenpartij Nederland<br>> David.van.Deijk@piratenpartij.nl<br>> ____________________________________________________<br>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br></div> </div></body>
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