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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Thank you, Mozart. As I am sure you are a polyglot, was that a lesson in Australian, Canadian, British, American, or New Zealand English?<br><br>
<table cellspacing="5"><tbody><tr><td><span class="hw">coun·ter·pro·duc·tive</span> <span class="pron">(koun<img src="http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/lprime.gif" align="absbottom">t<img src="http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gif" align="absbottom">r-pr<img src="http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gif" align="absbottom">-d<img src="http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ubreve.gif" align="absbottom">k<img src="http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gif" align="absbottom">t<img src="http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ibreve.gif" align="absbottom">v)</span><div class="pseg"><i>adj.</i><div class="ds-single"> Tending to hinder rather than serve one's purpose: <span class="illustration">"Violation of the court order would be counterproductive"</span> <span class="illustration">(Philip H. Lee).</span></div></div><hr class="hmshort" align="left"><div class="runseg"><b>coun<img src="http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/lprime.gif" align="absbottom">ter·pro·duc<img src="http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gif" align="absbottom">tive·ly</b><i> adv.</i></div></td></tr></tbody></table><hr><span class="hw">counterproductive</span> <span class="pron0x">[ˌkaʊntəprəˈdʌktɪv]</span><div><i>adj</i><div class="ds-list"> tending to hinder or act against the achievement of an aim</div></div><hr><span class="hw">coun•ter•pro•duc•tive</span> <span class="pron"> (ˌkaʊn tər prəˈdʌk tɪv) </span> <br> <br> <i>adj. </i> <div class="ds-single"> thwarting the achievement of an intended goal; tending to defeat one's purpose. </div> <div class="etyseg">[1960–65]</div> <div class="runseg"> <b>coun`ter•pro•duc′tive•ly,</b> <i>adv. </i> </div>
<a name="Thesaurus"></a><div id="Thesaurus"><div id="ThesaurusHead"><span id="ThesaurusTitle">Thesaurus</span> <span id="ThesaurusLegend"><b>Legend:</b> <span class="Syn">Synonyms</span> <span class="Rel">Related Words</span> <span class="Ant">Antonyms</span></span></div><div id="ThesaurusInner"><table id="wn"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"><b>Adj.</b></td><td valign="top"><b>1.</b></td><td><b>counterproductive</b> - tending to hinder the achievement of a goal<div class="Rel"><a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/harmful">harmful</a> - causing or capable of causing harm; "too much sun is harmful to the skin"; "harmful effects of smoking"</div></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div>
<a name="Translations"></a><div id="TranslationsHead"><span id="TranslationsTitle"><span class="img A toggle" id="toggle_span_5"></span> Translations</span></div><div lang="fr"><div lang="en"><span class="hw">counterproductive</span> <span class="pron0x">[ˌkaʊntə<sup>r</sup>prəˈdʌktɪv]</span> <i>adj</i> [<i>attitude, practice</i>] → <span lang="fr">contre-productif/ive</span><br>it is counterproductive to do → <span lang="fr">c'est <a href="http://fr.thefreedictionary.com/contre-productif">contre-productif</a> de <a href="http://fr.thefreedictionary.com/faire">faire</a></span></div></div><span class="hw">counterproductive</span> <span class="pron0x">[ˌkaʊntəprəˈdʌktɪv]</span> <i>adj</i> → <span lang="it"><a href="http://it.thefreedictionary.com/controproducente">controproducente</a></span><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:57:54 +1000<br>From: mozart.palmer@pp-international.net<br>To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] I had this dream once...<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div><b>unproductive</b> |ʌnprəˈdʌktɪv|<br></div><div>adjective</div><div>not producing or able to produce large amounts of goods, crops, or other commodities: unproductive land must be reforested.</div>
<div>• (of an activity or period) not achieving much; not very useful: unproductive meetings.</div><div>DERIVATIVES</div><div>unproductively adverb,</div><div>unproductiveness noun</div></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br>
<br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On 30 June 2013 08:50, Antonio Garcia <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ningunotro@hotmail.com" target="_blank">ningunotro@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div dir="ltr">Do not waste your precious resources on something that improductive my friend, you have understood nothing.<br><br><br><div>> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 23:21:22 +0200<br>> From: <a href="mailto:davidd@piratenpartij.nl" target="_blank">davidd@piratenpartij.nl</a><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net" target="_blank">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] I had this dream once...<div><div class="h5"><br>
> <br>> <br>> For people like you i have organised a special party.<br>> <br>> It's called the "bitter" party. only bitter people are allowed.<br>> <br>> We will party with coffee that has gone cold, black chocolate, brussels <br>
> sprouts and chicory (raw).<br>> <br>> people that still have a glimmer of hope left can go to Valio's party <br>> instead. only embittered people are welcome at my party.<br>> <br>> Cheers.<br>> <br>
> Antonio Garcia schreef op 29.06.2013 23:00:<br>> > Brussels/Kazan did everything possible to kill that dream, as it <br>> > can't<br>> > be built on lies.<br>> ><br>> > Lies do not marry emotions all that well.<br>
> ><br>> > Antonio.<br>> ><br>> >> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:37:43 +0200<br>> >> From: <a href="mailto:pirate@valio.ch" target="_blank">pirate@valio.ch</a><br>> >> To: <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net" target="_blank">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>
> >> Subject: [pp.int.general] I had this dream once...<br>> >><br>> >> ...of pirate woodstock<br>> >><br>> >> a festival...<br>> >> ...whose infrastructure is crowdfounded<br>
> >> ...where all financial requirements are openly visibly for everyone<br>> >> ...where there is no clear line inbetween musicians and visitors,<br>> > but<br>> >> where everyone shall bring their cc0-ed [0] music, share it over<br>
> >> public wifi, remix with other and publish it<br>> >> ...where everyone gets the chance by a random number generator to<br>> >> promote their music (or art) in a way that ze finds suitable (pirate<br>
> ><br>> >> radio, stage w/ streaming, remixed video, ...) and gets rewarded by<br>> > a<br>> >> Flattr-like-mechanism<br>> >> ...which does not take place in a single country, but several; none<br>
> >> (or at least: not all) centrally organized if possible; by applying<br>> > to<br>> >> the rules stated above, you get on the stream channels of others and<br>> ><br>> >> are allowed to call yourself part of the event<br>
> >> ...that is as pirate as possible without getting way to illegal<br>> >><br>> >> because<br>> >> ...we don't need huge corporations to organize huge festivals<br>> >> ...we don't need intermediaries that take profits in an amount that<br>
> > is<br>> >> hardly eligible<br>> >> ...we don't need anyone to tell who is worthy and who isn't<br>> > depending<br>> >> on current mainstream traits, which are nothing but remixes as all<br>
> > art<br>> >> [1] without someone else playing a similar piece of music [2]<br>> >> ...we want a world where you get a chance as an artist and are not<br>> >> constantly told that your income problem is primary piracy (instead<br>
> > of<br>> >> obscurity [3]), are often exploited (even if you're on the chart<br>> > list<br>> >> [4]) and are told you are producing "content" [5]<br>> >> ...we want a world that is united in the cyberspace [6] and one is<br>
> > not<br>> >> intended to be excluded by economical means<br>> >> ...we need a counterculture instead of just reacting to news and<br>> >> speaking about how we want the world<br>> >><br>
> >> Yes, I know this is not politics, but activism.<br>> >> Yes, I know there are initiatives at a small level, which are hardly<br>> > noticed.<br>> >> Yes, I know this is probably beyond our possibilities and you'll<br>
> > call<br>> >> me an utopian fool.<br>> >><br>> >> But if we are to follow the way down, I'm afraid we loose the fun.<br>> >> The fun that is necessary to bear with politics, not to forget why<br>
> > we<br>> >> are here [7] and not getting just another movement that becomes<br>> >> crusted very soon.<br>> >><br>> >> -pat<br>> >><br>> >> [0] Creative Commons - CC0 license<br>
> >> <a href="http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/" target="_blank">http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/</a><br>> >> [1] Ferguson - Everything is a remix <a href="http://everythingisaremix.info/" target="_blank">http://everythingisaremix.info/</a><br>
> >> [2] The Axis of Awesome - 4 Chords<br>> > <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQ</a><br>> >> [3] Doctorow - the problem isn't piracy. the problem is obscurity.<br>
> >><br>> > <br>> > <a href="http://www.write4kids.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/doctorow.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.write4kids.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/doctorow.pdf</a><br>> >> [4] Love - Courtney Love does the math<br>
> > <a href="http://www.salon.com/2000/06/14/love_7/" target="_blank">http://www.salon.com/2000/06/14/love_7/</a><br>> >> [5] Stallman - Words to avoid - Content<br>> >> <a href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Content" target="_blank">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Content</a><br>
> >> [6] Barlow - A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace<br>> >> <a href="https://projects.eff.org/~barlow/Declaration-Final.html" target="_blank">https://projects.eff.org/~barlow/Declaration-Final.html</a><br>
> >> [7] Falkvinge - why are you here?<br>> > <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCbRX1YEqrs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCbRX1YEqrs</a><br>> >><br>> >> ____________________________________________________<br>
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> <br>> -- <br>> Met vriendelijke groeten,<br>> David van Deijk.<br>> Kandidaat Tweede Kamer 2012,<br>> Ledenraadslid 2013-<br>> Piratenpartij Nederland<br>> <a href="mailto:David.van.Deijk@piratenpartij.nl" target="_blank">David.van.Deijk@piratenpartij.nl</a><br>
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