Is anybody following the Russian situation? Apparently there is a new antipiracy law proposal which has already been signed by president Vladimir Putin. Source: <a href="http://rosbalt.ru">rosbalt.ru</a><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Zbigniew Łukasiak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zzbbyy@gmail.com" target="_blank">zzbbyy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
In Poland one of the other parties proposes a system where everyone<br>
pays the same fee and then gets the same pension - they call it 'the<br>
Canadian system' (any Canadians to comment on that?) . In a way this<br>
looks very similar to Basic Income and I have similar arguments for<br>
it. When we have BI then all this would not be needed - but maybe we<br>
can adopt this as a kind of intermediate goal?<br>
<br>
The state should deliver universal benefits - that are the same for<br>
every citizen - wherever we want diversification we can let private<br>
companies do that - they are pretty good at that.<br>
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I can see two arguments for having the state force citizens to pay<br>
pension contributions (be it really called pension contribution or be<br>
it just a part of other taxes):<br>
<br>
- the rational argument is that if we don't force people to save for<br>
retirement then they will not save and the state will have to take<br>
care of them anyway (because of humanitarian reasons or because<br>
otherwise they would steal and stuff) - in that case the state does<br>
not need to pay pensions above the social minimum - i.e. the same for<br>
everyone<br>
<br>
- the humanitarian/solidarity argument is also better met by a system<br>
that delivers the same benefits to everyone then by one that<br>
discriminates<br>
<br>
Of course the obligatory contributions should not be (much) higher<br>
then what is needed to meet the social minimum in pensions. All the<br>
rest of the salaries people could save in private funds. I believe<br>
that this private part of the pensions funds would be the most<br>
efficient one - market is pretty good at that - but on the the other<br>
it can not be the only part of the solution. There are many pensions<br>
schemas that mix the state and the private parts - and this is<br>
probably the worst of all - we need to do both but demarcated in a<br>
clear way.<br>
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Zbigniew Lukasiak<br>
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