<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Preconditions are based on objectives. Here we come on a core issue, is or should the PPI be a /political/ instrument (like the PP-EU). Or should the PPI be a NGO with the focus on /facilitating/ the international communication/collaborations.<br>
</div><br></div>All the individual PP's and similair future 'structures' /are/ already political so for Europe 'we' created a /specific/ political structure to fit a specific political objective (the 2014 EU-elections).<br>
<br>I prefer a PPI that is NOT a political 'tool' but a pirate tool where we keep the political bullshit out of as much as possible.<br><br></div>Many pirates IMO 'see' way too much political importance in the PPI where it should be much 'looser' and be more 'fun' to work with.<br>
<br></div>So raising the standard of the PPI on political motives/views is a /bad/ thing happening. This in /opposition/ to the PP-EU where it should be a /good/ thing to professionalise the standard. <br><br></div>I hope I made myself clear, and by the way having discussed with French pirates, they share the same or a similar view (disclaimer: I'm not speaking for /all/ French pirates).<br>
<br></div>Piratement<br></div>Anouk Neeteson<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 August 2013 20:36, Rafa Couto <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rafacouto@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafacouto@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="im"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:14 PM, <span style="background-color:yellow">Anouk</span> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jakobsheep@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="background-color:yellow">jakobsheep</span>@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:</div>
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And creating an obligation how a pirate party should be organised for PPI membership is (also) not a pirate principle (dictating others), not ?</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div><div>Preconditions are not imposed/dictated: anyone can choose participate or do not. Furthermore, preconditions must be voted by all.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Basic obligations (read common stuff) is the glue that joins the group. In this case, separation of powers, direct democracy or something completely far away from the concentration of power is a pirate principle, IMHO.</div>
</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">The statutes we have voted recently in the Pirate Confederation in Spain includes a related precondition/obligation for membershipping: "The party must be governed by assembly regime.". It seems a great idea to avoid "presidential" or unfair leaderships and to promote empowerment.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Rafa</div><div class="im"><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Rafa <span style="background-color:yellow">Couto</span><br>GNU/Linux user #99126 - <font color="#0000ee"><u><a href="http://bit.ly/LC-99126" target="_blank">http://bit.<span style="background-color:yellow">ly</span>/LC-99126</a></u></font><br>
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