<div dir="ltr">Thank you to Andrew,PPUK for supplying us with good information. Saved me a lot of research.<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Raymond Johansen</div><div>Member PPNO, PPUK - Hacktivist</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:50 PM,  <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pirate@valio.ch" target="_blank">pirate@valio.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+1 to Andrew<br>
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Zitat von Andrew Norton <<a href="mailto:ktetch@gmail.com" target="_blank">ktetch@gmail.com</a>>:<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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On 9/11/2013 8:47 AM, Ryan Moffitt wrote:<br>
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Well, isnt that something... Ill submit a FOIA request for the USPP and<br>
the Florida PP. I ran for office from the FLPP so Im curious what, if<br>
anything they have on us.<br>
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It's 'something' yes. However my understanding is that the 'something'<br>
is 'the standard glomar response'<br>
<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glomar_response" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>Glomar_response</a><br>
<br>
Here's some guidance on Privacy Glomaraization from 27 years ago<br>
<a href="http://www.justice.gov/oip/foia_updates/Vol_VII_1/page3.htm" target="_blank">http://www.justice.gov/oip/<u></u>foia_updates/Vol_VII_1/page3.<u></u>htm</a><br>
<br>
So, basically, you're asking for investigative records, and they won't<br>
confirm or deny there are such (because confirming indicates there has<br>
been some sort of investigation, while denying also confirms there<br>
hasn't been)<br>
<br>
In reality, there's no 'story' here, and certainly no response that will<br>
be obtained other than the same form letter.<br>
<br>
BTW, many of the things invovling the NSA are going to fall under one of<br>
the exemptions from the 1976 Government in the Sunshine act<br>
(<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Information_Act_(United_States)#The_1976_Government_in_the_Sunshine_Act_amendments" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>Freedom_of_Information_Act_(<u></u>United_States)#The_1976_<u></u>Government_in_the_Sunshine_<u></u>Act_amendments</a>)<br>

which is why generally you have to sue to get anything more than a<br>
glomar response, or a denial under the GITSA exceptions.<br>
<br>
So, unless you're ready to waste a lot of money on lawsuits, don't bother.<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
Spokesman, PPGA<br>
Governor, PPUK<br>
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