<div dir="ltr">"<span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px"> We have heard about </span><b style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px">massive surveillance operations by secret services</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px">, "</span><div>
<span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px">come on, everything is doxed.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px"><br></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px">I don't believe we can help them without giving them legitimacy for terrible things that will happen with internet governance </span></div><div><br></div><div><font face="Calibri" size="3">Having in mind that Nellie Kroes really believes that UN should regulate the internet, I advise not to take part in this conversation. </font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font face="Calibri" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font face="Calibri" size="3">THEY HAVE HEARD. Seriously? </font></div><div><font face="Calibri" size="3"><br></font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri" size="3">Give my best regards to Dgt Agenda and make them do their own research. After all they are payed for that. </font></div><div><font face="Calibri" size="3"><br></font></div><div><font face="Calibri" size="3">where to starz - hint: European Court for Human Rights </font></div>
<div><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Scott Elcomb <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:psema4@gmail.com" target="_blank">psema4@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Copy & Seed :)<br><div>- Scott</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: <b class="gmail_sendername"></b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Andrea.GLORIOSO@ec.europa.eu" target="_blank">Andrea.GLORIOSO@ec.europa.eu</a>></span><br>
Date: Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:13 AM<br>Subject: [liberationtech] Neelie Kroes: "Internet Governance: I want your views!"<br>To: <a href="mailto:Andrea.GLORIOSO@ec.europa.eu" target="_blank">Andrea.GLORIOSO@ec.europa.eu</a><br>
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<div>I would like to share with you the recent blog post by Neelie Kroes, Vice President of the European Commission and Commissioner for the Digital Agenda, on Internet Governance.</div>
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<div>The blog post is accessible at <a href="http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/content/internet-governance-i-want-your-views" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/content/internet-governance-i-want-your-views</u></font></a>
and also reproduced below for ease of reference. Vice-President Kroes highlights some of her key thoughts on the main challenges for the governance of the Internet and calls upon everyone to share their views on how the Internet should be governed and what
Europe's role should be. Such online engagement will take place via the Digital Agenda website at <a href="https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/content/europe-and-internet-global-context" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/content/europe-and-internet-global-context</u></font></a>.
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<div>Importantly, as part of this online engagement a discussion paper was produced and put online at <a href="https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/sites/digital-agenda/files/131007%20public%20questions%20formatted.pdf" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/sites/digital-agenda/files/131007%20public%20questions%20formatted.pdf</u></font></a>.</div>
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<div>I would encourage all of you to express your views.</div>
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<div style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><font size="6"><span style="font-size:24pt"><b>Internet Governance: I want your views! </b></span></font></div>
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<div>Published by <a href="http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/users/neelie-kroes" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>Neelie KROES</u></font></a> on Wednesday, 09/10/2013 </div>
<div style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><font size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">As digital agenda commissioner I have long fought hard to keep <b>the Internet driving positive change </b>- helping Europe's economy and society. And now we are asking
for <a href="https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/content/europe-and-internet-global-context" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>your views on internet governance</u></font></a>.</span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><font size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">I have fought especially hard for an open Internet. As a network of networks, <b>no one person or country owns the Internet</b>, but we do need <b>a clear set of rules
that everybody needs to play by</b>. I have defended such rules at international conferences on the Internet, most recently at the Internet Governance Forum in Baku – and, in particular, <a href="http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-12-922_en.htm" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>resisted
attempts</u></font></a> by others to push for significant increases to the scope of International Telecoms Regulations at the recent WCIT meeting in Dubai.</span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><font size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">But since then a lot of things have happened. We have heard about <b>massive surveillance operations by secret services</b>, within Europe as well as the US. Of course
we are extremely concerned by what that means for personal data protection. But this also has <b>deep implications for the governance of the Internet</b>. It is clearly influencing how <a href="http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=45955&Cr=General+Debate&Cr1=" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>some
international partners are thinking</u></font></a>. And it is even more important now that we agree on common principles for Internet governance, and how decisions are made in all Internet-related matters.</span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><font size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">This autumn will be crucial in many ways. In Europe, I am proposing ambitious measures to bring down barriers within our <a href="http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/content/building-connected-continent" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>connected
continent</u></font></a>. That's a priority for me, and a priority for our economic future, which I hope EU leaders will take seriously at their <a href="http://www.european-council.europa.eu/council-meetings?meeting=760391ff-5b52-4248-a076-5032044c6288&lang=en&type=EuropeanCouncil" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>forthcoming
summit</u></font></a>.</span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><font size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">But, at the same time as we bring those barriers down, <b>I want to avoid new ones going up</b>. Later this month, Internet world leaders are meeting at the <a href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>Internet
Governance Forum</u></font></a> in Bali. I am sorry that, for the first time, I cannot be there in person myself. But I would like to contribute, both to make clear how closely and seriously we are watching this debate, and to stress the importance of having
a clear and robust framework for Internet Governance and policy-making as soon as possible.</span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><font size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">As it stands today, the conclusions of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) are the only international-level political agreement on Internet governance;
and they are the subject of several consultations. Particularly important among those consultations are the discussions in the <a href="http://www.itu.int/wsis/review/mpp/" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>"WSIS+10" High-Level Event</u></font></a>, and the <a href="http://unctad.org/en/Pages/cstd.aspx" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>UN
Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation</u></font></a>; I hope many of you will be contributing.</span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><font size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt"><b>The Internet is increasingly the forum for so much of our lives</b>; from transacting through commerce or banking; to interacting through social networks; to communicating
with governments or pushing for democratic change. It's clear to me that the Internet is a European strategic domain – and, although the internet is a different kind of place to the "real world", our stance towards it should be underpinned by just the same
values, priorities and interests as everything else.</span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><font size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">This digital age needs <b>a new social contract. </b>Decisions that affect the Internet shouldn't be taken just by politicians, companies or technicians alone, without
any reference to common principles.</span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><font size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">So I believe that the new social contract <b>must be based on sound principles</b>. My starting point here are those in the <a href="http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/blog/i-propose-a-compact-for-the-internet" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>Compact</u></font></a>
I first floated a couple of years ago; like that the Internet should remain open, unified, pro-democratic, enabling trust and confidence, and based on transparent, multi-stakeholder governance. Recent news shows just how fragile this balance of values can be;
important efforts to tackle terrorist threats cannot be at the expense of fundamental freedoms.</span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><font size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">But we also must have a clearer view of <b>what we mean when we speak of "multi-stakeholder processes"</b>. I worry that without a clear definition, everyone will claim
that their decision processes are inclusive and transparent, when in practice they are not – as was shown recently, when the Governmental Advisory Committee of ICANN pressed on regardless - in spite of the EU's <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/correspondence/kroes-to-chehade-crocker-12sep13-en.pdf" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>legitimate
concerns</u></font></a> on new domain names.</span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><font size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">As you may have seen, Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff recently set out her <a href="http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=45955&Cr=General+Debate&Cr1=" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>strong
belief in multi-lateral cooperation</u></font></a> as a basis for Internet governance. I am looking forward to seeing further details – but in principle I very much support that line. Plus, our future <a href="http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/blog/gipo" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>Global
Internet Policy Observatory</u></font></a> will help give a more balanced view of how the Internet should be governed. And I know many of these issues will also be discussed in Bali.</span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><font size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">But I want to take this seriously. These are my thoughts<b>: but I want yours too; your ideas on how the Internet should be governed and what Europe's role should be</b>.</span></font></div>
<div style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><font size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">For the next four weeks, please share your views on the dedicated <a href="https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/content/europe-and-internet-global-context" target="_blank"><font color="blue"><u>web
page</u></font></a>.</span></font></div>
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