<div dir="ltr">I think the point of her thesis has to do with how hackers affect the political sphere. She stated that, along with saying that she already knew Google Docs wasn't the best of options, but she had no other way to do it -that she knew of- that could offer her what she wanted for free. <div>
This is not the first time this very discussion has happened on the list, and it seems that Sophie isn't responding to the discussion. With questions like "<span style="background-color:rgb(247,247,247);color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif,sans-serif;font-size:13px">What kind of practical elements could hacking bring into politics</span><span style="background-color:rgb(247,247,247);color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif,sans-serif;font-size:13px">?"</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> I don't think free software is high on her list of things she's studying; it seems like she's leaning toward the Anonymous phenomenon.</span></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Daniel Riaño <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:danielrr2@gmail.com" target="_blank">danielrr2@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">2014/1/19 Lindsay-Anne <span>Brunner</span> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lindsay.brunner@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span>lindsay</span>.<span>brunner</span>@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<div dir="ltr">The woman just wanted some answers for her thesis. </div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Hi, I think she's getting very valuable arguments to use in her thesis through this thread, isn't she?</div>
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</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Why is there an argument over how she wrote her survey? </div>
</blockquote><div> </div></div><div>In my opinion, one of the reasons is because this is going to make her survey much more reliable. </div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Just take the survey or don't; she might not be in tune with the argument in the first place or aware of the issue, but that doesn't mean you all should go on for days over it. </div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>If you are making a thesis in, say, "How the interests of furniture industries in Malaysia are endangering the Orangutan's ecosystem", and somebody questions your methodology because of some minor points about the software you used for your survey (unrelated with its usability or reliability) you could certainly ignore the objections. But if you are doing a thesis in things directly related with free software and you are given indications about the nature of the software you are using, I think you are being given very sound and timely advice about your thesis' subject (much better now than latter).</div>
<div><br></div><div>best,</div><div><br></div><div>Daniel</div><div><div class="h5">
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</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Richard Stallman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rms@gnu.org" target="_blank">rms@gnu.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]<br>
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]<br>
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]<br>
<br>
</div><div> Referring to it as<br>
"Debian Gnoo Slash Linux" all the time, however, will just get confusing<br>
to the person you're trying to convince to switch to free software. "Is<br>
it Debian, this Gnoo thing, or Linux? I don't know, oh to hell with it,<br>
I give up."<br>
<br>
</div>You can explain it in a few seconds. You could also call it "Debian"<br>
for the first few minutes.<br>
<div><br>
So again, "who cares", or rather "what do we actually care about as a<br>
free software movement"? The accreditation of GNU by using GNU/Linux,<br>
and if so, why stop there and just credit every upstream packager<br>
included by default in a distribution?<br>
<br>
</div>See <a href="http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#many" target="_blank">http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#many</a>.<br>
<div><br>
And, as to what is actually formally correct; that would be how the<br>
distribution you're referring to names itself. For example, Debian<br>
GNU/Linux, but Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Why?<br>
<br>
</div>See <a href="http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#distronames1" target="_blank">http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#distronames1</a>.<br>
<div><br>
Both the Linux kernel and<br>
most of the GNU userland are licensed with the (A)GPL which requires<br>
using the copyright monopoly, to not remove accreditation of the authors<br>
in the actual source, but has no such mention of the name.<br>
<br>
</div>See <a href="http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#require" target="_blank">http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#require</a><br>
and <a href="http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#deserve" target="_blank">http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#deserve</a>.<br>
<div><br>
Sigh. One of these days I'm just going to create a distribution with the<br>
Linux kernel and consisting of entirely free software, but without the<br>
GNU userland.<br>
<br>
</div>See <a href="http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#linuxsyswithoutgnu" target="_blank">http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#linuxsyswithoutgnu</a>.<br>
<br>
You are grasping at the usual excuses, but you would see through them<br>
on your own, if you tried.<br>
<div><br>
--<br>
Dr Richard Stallman<br>
President, Free Software Foundation<br>
51 Franklin St<br>
Boston MA 02110<br>
USA<br>
<a href="http://www.fsf.org" target="_blank">www.fsf.org</a> <a href="http://www.gnu.org" target="_blank">www.gnu.org</a><br>
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.<br>
Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.<br>
<br>
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