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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">It should not be too much to ask that
the organisation respects its members enough to follow the rules
that the members have agreed.<br>
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To be fair there is also an onus on each member to hold the Board
to account. If enough members allow the rules to slide for the
sake of convenience (and this can be very tempting and doesn't
mean there are bad intentions) then the rules are meaningless and
the members are to blame. If the members fail over and over to
demand the rules are followed, can we really blame a Board for not
respecting those rules?<br>
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I know Andrew can be very quick to jump on PPI failings, and it is
very very inconvenient that he exposes each and every failing so
clearly. It interesting that when he does so that instead of
hanging our heads in shame for letting those failings happen and
fixing them, there is a temptation to find any excuse to argue
against the <i>way</i> he points it out, rather than deal with
the failings themselves. It is hard to be wrong and to admit it.
Harder to not want to admit it and have someone keep on shouting
about it.<br>
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We need a solution to Andrew's inconvenient truths. My suggestion
is we follow the rules. That ought to shut him up.<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="84"> Stephen Ogden
Governor of the Board - Pirate Party UK
Pirate Party UK is a political party registered with the Electoral Commission.</pre>
On 28/03/2014 11:50, Thijs Markus wrote:<br>
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id="mid_5578c7b3762602419a2a18732564d4b7_piratenpartij_nl"
cite="mid:5578c7b3762602419a2a18732564d4b7@piratenpartij.nl"
type="cite">Quasi-legalities aside, this 5 week notice for a
yearly event shouldn't be that hard to accomplish.
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And despite the late notice, there is still not much information
to be found...
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Board candidates: Gregory, the only candidate.
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Statutes Amendments: Apparently Nuno of ppp put in some work here,
and these two proposals deserve some discussion and deliberation.
5 weeks would have been nice for that. Also, with the required 4
week notice to make such a proposal, that 5 week notice is rather
essential should other people have plans too.
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Other proposals: empty
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No offence, but looking at this, wouldn't it be more appropriate
to reschedule this GA in some 6 weeks, so it can be done properly?
If only because at this point only there is only one known
candidate, and I'd like far more than an odd week to inform myself
about the alternatives.
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<br>
This will be another last minute rush of candidates and proposals,
and horribly uninformed decision making, after which naught will
come of it. This modus operandi has not served PPI, and prevented
PPI from serving us for the past years. We need these 5 weeks to
have space for discussions on the future of PPI, to give the room
this GA needs to become significant, if anyone still believes in
it.
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On 28.03.2014 11:56, Maxime Rouquet wrote:
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<blockquote class=" cite" id="Cite_2908801" type="cite">On Fri,
Mar 28, 2014 at 3:56 AM, Andrew Norton <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ktetch@gmail.com"><ktetch@gmail.com></a>
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wrote:
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<blockquote class=" cite" id="Cite_3730678" type="cite">So
you're admitting (...)
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I am asking you to follow the Statutes and that is all. We have
a
<br>
defined procedure for potential Statutes breaches, with a ruling
by a
<br>
judiciary body that will get things closer to a fair trial than
<br>
unproductive exchanges of ad hominem attacks on a public
mailing-list.
<br>
<br>
Regards,
<br>
<br>
Maxime
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