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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Jezus, Carlo, you really live in another world ;).<br><br>What we have ALMOST achieved... is called #IDIOCRAZY.<br><br>http://samedokan.wordpress.com/2013/09/02/klarmachen-zum-kentern/<br><br><br>Very hard to fight... and no other democratic exit than long term education... a time we won't get before the world implodes.<br><br><br>Antonio.<br><br><div>> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 22:06:32 +0200<br>> From: lynX@pirate.my.buttharp.org<br>> To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Liquid Democracy - a summary attempt<br>> <br>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 04:30:01PM -0300, seykron wrote:<br>> > So I think we have a different faiths. You still believe that a<br>> > representative democracy could work (and you identify the core problem<br>> <br>> Hmmm... no, I don't believe in representative democracy. I'm a fervent<br>> opponent of both representative and direct democracy. Both have failed<br>> humanity on numerous occasions. When was the last time you read about<br>> the common set of political demands of the worldwide Occupy movement?<br>> Where is the program that describes how the Occupy movement thinks<br>> the world economy can be fixed? Occupy practices direct democracy on<br>> a local level and has no way to produce common resolutions on a<br>> national, continental or worldwide scale. In fact after few weeks it<br>> already drove away the majority of interested people, so it quickly<br>> became the playground of the dominant extroverts. We saw a few of those<br>> on television - they weren't even intelligent. I sympathise with Occupy.<br>> I even co-managed the Berlin side of the 15th of something event. That<br>> single day in history when the 99% was Occupy. But that was it, a flash<br>> in the pan. I am glad the Pirate movement has achieved so much more.<br>> Less media, less percentages, but actual content. And a vision.<br>> <br>> > as corruption). You think people just need to understand from the<br>> > comfort of their chairs that they can make a difference by<br>> > participating in an online platform.<br>> <br>> Are you alluding to LQFB? That is by far no representative democracy.<br>> And it worked. The results were a lot better than any editorial approach<br>> could have generated, even if all editors had no bias and no agenda.<br>> And it's not a problem if only a small percentage of population actually<br>> participates. It still means that tens of thousands are working out<br>> solutions the world is facing instead of just the hundreds you have in<br>> well equipped parliaments.<br>> <br>> ____________________________________________________<br>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br></div> </div></body>
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