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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Thank you, sekron. Please believe me, I have read those.<br><br>You think... don't feed the troll, I think graveyard.<br><br>Do you believe we can find any kind of suitable consensus...<br><br>... or will the majority just impose it's favourite idiocracy?<br><br>Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 10:13:29 -0300<br>From: seykron@partidopirata.com.ar<br>To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] consensus experiment<br><br><pre>Zby, Betiel, please, don't feed the troll.<br> <br>Antonio, you can join us if you want, we're working on a pad and once<br>we have consensus (we already have, I guess) we'll start organizing<br>the action.<br> <br>And just to be kind, in the PPAr we have several activities and<br>everyone who wants can participate. I can tell you "how it works" if<br>you want. Some activities can be found here:<br> <br><a href='http://wiki.partidopirata.com.ar/Categor%C3%ADa:Propuestas' target='_blank'>http://wiki.partidopirata.com.ar/Categor%C3%ADa:Propuestas</a><br> <br>This is our self-development space on intellectual thinking:<br> <br><a href='https://github.com/seykron/utopia.partidopirata.com.ar' target='_blank'>https://github.com/seykron/utopia.partidopirata.com.ar</a><br> <br>This is a paper we collaboratively wrote for a symposium:<br> <br><a href='https://github.com/seykron/utopia.partidopirata.com.ar/blob/feature/democracia-directa-pirata/_posts/2014-04-13-democracia-directa-pirata.markdown' target='_blank'>https://github.com/seykron/utopia.partidopirata.com.ar/blob/feature/democracia-directa-pirata/_posts/2014-04-13-democracia-directa-pirata.markdown</a><br> <br>Hope it helps.<br> <br>Regards,<br> <br>Matías<br> <br> <br>On Fri, 16 May 2014 14:44:38 +0200<br>Zbigniew Łukasiak <zzbbyy@gmail.com> wrote:<br> <br>> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Antonio Garcia<br>> <ningunotro@hotmail.com> wrote:<br>> > Fuere is one big trouble about consensus...<br>> ><br>> > ... you can have one, and build a willing group around it...<br>> > ... but you can't have a group where absolutely everybody is<br>> > admitted acritically, like in absolutely horizontal inclusive<br>> > groups... and then try to find a suitable consensus.<br>> <br>> I actually agree - when there is no entry barrier - then you get<br>> trolls and flamewars. What we need is a stable group that makes its<br>> own rules to fight trolls and flamewars. To be able to do that the<br>> group needs to have defined boundaries and entry rules.<br>> <br>> Cheers,<br>> Zbigniew<br>> ____________________________________________________<br>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> <a href='http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general' target='_blank'>http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general</a><br> <br></pre><br>____________________________________________________
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