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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 18:36:18 +0200<br><div>> From: zzbbyy@gmail.com<br>> To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Antonio - do you want to work with us in organizing this movement?<br>> <br>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Antonio Garcia <ningunotro@hotmail.com> wrote:<br>> > Jesus, can I talk to someone competent?<br>> ><br>> > Do I really have to spell everything out not to waste six months explaining<br>> > the obvious?<br>> ><br>> > Can I take obvious things for obvious, or am I still talking in<br>> > KinderGarten?<br>> <br>> I can see you are very frustrated - but I don't quite understand what<br>> you are referring to - sorry.<br>> <br>> Are you disagreeing with me - or with someone else in this thread?<br>> <br>> ><br>> > I meant the FIRST ruling of the CoA ABOUT Pirates de Catalunya full<br>> > membership, which is the subject WE were talking about. Not the first ever<br>> > ruling of that particular class of Court of Arbitration.<br>> ><br>> <br>> OK - I was also talking about this case - so I guess that burst of<br>> frustration was about something else.<br><br>No, you weren't, damnit...<br><br>"Right - the Court of Arbitration ruling was wrong.<br><pre> <br>But in fact the CoA could not rule that the very GA that elected them<br>is invalid. The only ruling it could logically do is to rule that this<br>is outside of its competence. And the current one also cannot nullify<br>the chain of events that lead to its election - because it would also<br>make itself invalid and thus also the very decision."<br><br><br>That was about the supposition that the CoA can not rule as invalid the <br>occasion at which it has been elected because then it would rule itself <br>invalid. A very simplistic line of thought in itself that has however <br>nothing to do with the ruling about the catalans.<br><br>Be more accurate, more inteligent, more competent. Or let somebody with <br>more cualifications handle this.<br><br>There is too much really basic stuff you do not seem to understand or<br>even pay attention to. You are not being a good ambassador for the <br>Pirate cause.<br></pre> <br> <br>> > Thay one Court of Arbitration has proven to be absolutely incompetent, all<br>> > the way, in even the most trivial of rulings.<br>> ><br>> > By the way, the spokesperson for the actual one is not showing much aptitude<br>> > either, reading his comments:<br>> ><br>> > http://samedokan.wordpress.com/2014/05/10/when-pirates-do-prefer-censorship/<br>> ><br>> > And I am still kept waiting. Luckily, I reduced possible damage to a minimum<br>> > as only Julia Reda got a seat in the European Parliament... results could<br>> > have been far better if I had worked towards good results rather than<br>> > against because nobody left me better options.<br>> <br>> So you admit that you are working against pirate parties political success?<br><br>You are a very bad craftsman trying to get a confession for the #Pirate #Inquisition :(.<br><br>I have already said what I have said, and done what I have done.<br><br> <br>> Cheers,<br>> Z.<br>> ____________________________________________________<br>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br></div> </div></body>
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