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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Not only just more of such people... we need to make sure they never lose the majority within each Pirate Party and inside of any of its (semi)independent organisations.<br><br>It is the only way to reverse the advance into an #IDIOCRAZY incompatible with basic pirate values... and the survival of enlightenment.<br><br>> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 13:16:20 +0100<br>> From: lynX@pirate.my.buttharp.org<br>> To: pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Pirate Party MEP Fails to Deliver True Copyright Reform | TorrentFreak<br>> <br>> On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 09:18:09AM +0000, michael john sinclair wrote:<br>> > Hmm a Pirat sujesting censorship.We sail pirateships not censorships.<br>> <br>> Bullshit. Saying that you are supposed to discuss in the appropriate<br>> place and in a fair manner compared to all other Pirates is not<br>> censorship. It is INTRODUCING FAIRNESS in the Pirate discourse.<br>> <br>> Calling any form of civilized behaviour "censorship" is the<br>> logical fallacy that has been toppling the Pirate movement<br>> time and time again.<br>> <br>> > >> As far as telling people that they're not allowed to criticize<br>> > >> each other: badness.<br>> > > Don't say things that aren't written there. Read carefully.<br>> > <br>> > On 27-1-2015 14:18, carlo von lynX wrote:<br>> > > It may seem way too late now, but I would propose to create the <br>> > > necessary decisional platform for the Pirate Movement to<br>> > > collectively pass a regulation for ALL Pirate Parties to **forbid<br>> > > individuals from criticizing Pirate representatives via the public<br>> > > media** UNLESS there has been a legitimate collective process that<br>> > > comes to the conclusion that parliamentary XY has been acting<br>> > > outside the Pirate consensus.<br>> <br>> Do you understand "VIA THE PUBLIC MEDIA" ?<br>> <br>> Do you understand that freedom of expression allows you to say<br>> you are homophobic or racist.. but that is likely to no longer<br>> find acceptance in the Pirate movement. So you have a constitutional<br>> right of freedom of expression, but it doesn't mean you can exercise<br>> it within the pirate party, because then you are an a**hole.<br>> <br>> Same goes for the right to criticize people within the movement.<br>> You have a constitutional right to do it using unfair means, but<br>> that doesn't mean we have to like you and keep you as a member in<br>> the movement.<br>> <br>> I think this type of superficial populism that has been exposed<br>> by the recent postings on this list is a serious threat to the<br>> future of the Pirate movement. We need more people who are<br>> rationally advanced enough to understand the mistakes in logic.<br>> <br>> ____________________________________________________<br>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net<br>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general<br> </div></body>
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